[Fatalist_ma]

Not sure about Ideapads.

Thinkpads with AMD cpu-s are not that expensive: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1645679-REG/lenovo_20...

Same specs for 40% less than Pangolin.

[asddubs]

interesting, I was recently on the lenovo website and couldn't find a single thinkpad for under 2 grand. I guess they just hid them well.