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minikites | 4 years ago

Why does the freedom to infect others outweigh the freedom to survive a preventable disease? You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the social compact to follow as it suits you.

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Veen|4 years ago

These people want to not have the vaccine AND to work at home so they don't infect others. You'd have a point if they wanted the right to remain unvaccinated while demanding they be allowed to work in the office. Would you prefer if companies just fired everyone who, for whatever misguided reason, don't want the vaccine?

croes|4 years ago

Could a taxi company fire a driver refusing to wear a seat belt? Could a construction company fire some refusing to wear a helmet? Could a hospital fire a surgeon who refuses to wear a mask and gloves during operation?

minikites|4 years ago

Is "vaccine refuser" a protected class or something inalienable about a person? Does everyone have the right to work anywhere they wish? Plenty of other vaccines are required to attend college and to participate in other parts of society, why is this vaccine different?

nathias|4 years ago

Vaccines don't prevent transmission, you are not helping anyone but yourself with the vaccine, except for not making yourself into a burden for the medical infrastructure.

xadhominemx|4 years ago

Vaccinated people are less likely to become infected, and if infected, are probably contagious for a shorter duration.

nickthemagicman|4 years ago

If you leave quarantine you expose yourself to risk.

It's your choice to leave quarantine or not. It's your choice to get a vaccine or not.

This is a personal responsibility issue.

Not a society wide issue.

It's never been anyone's responsibility to wear a bubble suit to protect immuno-compromised people, or stop eating meat because of people with high cholesterol.. and it's not anyone's responsibility to get a vaccine to protect other people from covid.

Personally Im a hurricane evacuee and we are grateful for the help we don't demand you help us at risk to your livelihood.

nomdep|4 years ago

For someone with AIDS is not their responsibility to warn people before sex or to use a condom… wait IT IS!

How about driving drunk? Fuck everyone else am I right?

So stop whining and putting everyone at risk only because something is mildly inconvenient to you. Grow up already

Chris2048|4 years ago

> or stop eating meat because of people with high cholesterol

that doesn't make sense - why would you eating meat harm people with high cholesterol?

> It's never been anyone's responsibility to wear a bubble suit to protect immuno-compromised people

if you're a doctor treating them (or a friend visiting) it is

spywaregorilla|4 years ago

The societal risk of infecting immuno compromised people with random generic disease is small. Scale matters. Similarly you're not allowed to walk around new york if you're confirmed to be carrying a novel strain of ebola.

Permitting individuals to choose to be vaccinated and building owners to choose to forbid vaccinated people seems reasonable to me. Sacrificing individual freedoms for the mutual benefit of the larger group is the very core concept of society.