Those who enjoyed this might also enjoy Takahide Hori's JUNK HEAD [0], which was released in Japan earlier this year. In a similar vein, it's a ton of practical effects and stop-motion animation set in a post-apocalyptic underground world full of weird entities. Oddly enough, I discovered it via YouTube Kids[1], and while I like the art, I can't say that it's kid appropriate, which speaks to how weird YouTube Kids (still) is[2] if you leave it auto-playing unattended.
Nice to know there's still the weird and punk out there.
I kinda miss mainstream culture being exploratory enough to permit things like The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, MTV's Liquid Television, or Pipkins [0] (seriously, what was it with 70s and 80s British puppetry?!).
Woah, do you know if it’s going to come out full length with English sub? I’ve been trying to find news on Junk Head but there doesn’t seem to be much that’s in English.
My guess: you get a series of really astounding effects work, with a tissue-thin plot to function as an excuse for parading them before you that’s slightly more coherent than “this is my effects reel”.
Which seems pretty much what this article confirms this film is.
I noticed that and once the effects lose their novelty factor the movie ages quite poorly. I also noticed older movies which aged pretty well and guess what.. the cast is quite varied with input from different artists. A good director knows how to leverage that and ‘marinate’ it into a good film.
Flip the question around and you either see how ridiculous the question is, or how disdainful it is of the art of writing (or both): “What happens when the best writer, ever, does VFX for a film?”.
Also by what measure is this person “the best practical VFX artist, ever”? Is there some global competition with leaderboards going back decades where this person is ranked objectively as number one?
This kind of nonsense making it to the front page makes it really hard to enjoy HN.
> “What happens when the best writer, ever, does VFX for a film?”
My guess would be that somebody who was very good at writing, and also took an interest in visual (or in this case practical) effects, would probably be at least fairly good at it.
Lots of film people are good at more than one thing. I'm not sure what you're getting at with this question.
>By now, anyone who would agree to the label of "film fan" knows the legendary Phil Tippett. Perhaps the greatest visual effects artist of the last 50 years (if not ever), Tippett brought to life the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park and the creatures of Star Wars while also enriching many, many stellar visual feasts like RoboCop, Willow, and Starship Troopers.
As a European into classic and arthouse cinema, from the resume he rather sounds like someone we'd call a "film fan" would not know, if not actively avoid the movies he was involved.
RoboCop and Starship Troopers are both far headier movies than what a lot of arthouse snobs would consider high art. And they actually made money!
You can deliver a quality film with a substantive plot while still making an action movie for the masses.
I'm just as into film as you are, if not possibly more so, but please just fuck off with your snobbish anti-Hollywood nonsense. Most of Europe's actors, directors, & what-have-you all work in Hollywood from time to time to eat.
Shit, while we're on the topic of Paul Verhoeven, the guy made the most successful (most seen) film in the history of Dutch cinema (1973's Turkish Delight) and put Rutger Hauer on the map with it. And did it again later with The Fourth Man (loosely remade later as Basic Instinct) which was a global hit and the most financially successful film made in the Netherlands.
I don't really think this kind of pretentious gatekeeping is helpful or welcoming. The works of both Spielberg and Tarkovsky are worth watching.
I'd go so far as to state that a true film "fan" appreciates both high-brow and popular cinema. There's no such thing as a "guilty" pleasure if you truly enjoy something.
It just says a lot about your “taste”. You may not like the lack of character building in Jurassic Park but you can’t deny the amount of work that went into practical effects in order to make that movie (same with Every single Harry Potter movie by the way).
Same thing with Starship Troopers which by itself is also quite a funny piece of political satire apart from creative use of gore and trashy characters.
What is arthouse for you? A man and a woman speaking french and driving into the sunset?
[+] [-] 1MachineElf|4 years ago|reply
[0] https://youtu.be/O2ygfn-WqF8
[1] https://youtu.be/T2tFGeLvPW4
[2] https://www.theverge.com/culture/2017/11/21/16685874/kids-yo...
[+] [-] ethbr0|4 years ago|reply
I kinda miss mainstream culture being exploratory enough to permit things like The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, MTV's Liquid Television, or Pipkins [0] (seriously, what was it with 70s and 80s British puppetry?!).
[0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuaLAGgeTx8
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[+] [-] SideburnsOfDoom|4 years ago|reply
eg. Sober https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nspxAG12Cpc
Ænema https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehYA3omb5o
[+] [-] danybittel|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Scene_Cast2|4 years ago|reply
Just a heads up though - it's very avant-garde.
[+] [-] arethuza|4 years ago|reply
But Edinburgh is a mad god's dream
Fitful and dark,
Unseizable in Leith
And wildered by the Forth,
But irresistibly at last
Cleaving to sombre heights
Of passionate imagining
Till stonily,
From soaring battlements,
Earth eyes Eternity.
Hugh MacDiarmid (1892-1978): "Edinburgh"
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[+] [-] egypturnash|4 years ago|reply
Which seems pretty much what this article confirms this film is.
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[+] [-] ChrisMarshallNY|4 years ago|reply
Odd movie. I liked it a lot. YMMV.
[0] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366780/
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[+] [-] Razengan|4 years ago|reply
https://youtu.be/eqeSGjCKV68
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Also by what measure is this person “the best practical VFX artist, ever”? Is there some global competition with leaderboards going back decades where this person is ranked objectively as number one?
This kind of nonsense making it to the front page makes it really hard to enjoy HN.
[+] [-] Joeboy|4 years ago|reply
My guess would be that somebody who was very good at writing, and also took an interest in visual (or in this case practical) effects, would probably be at least fairly good at it.
Lots of film people are good at more than one thing. I'm not sure what you're getting at with this question.
[+] [-] TigeriusKirk|4 years ago|reply
You get Pixar?
[+] [-] coldtea|4 years ago|reply
As a European into classic and arthouse cinema, from the resume he rather sounds like someone we'd call a "film fan" would not know, if not actively avoid the movies he was involved.
[+] [-] busterarm|4 years ago|reply
You can deliver a quality film with a substantive plot while still making an action movie for the masses.
I'm just as into film as you are, if not possibly more so, but please just fuck off with your snobbish anti-Hollywood nonsense. Most of Europe's actors, directors, & what-have-you all work in Hollywood from time to time to eat.
Shit, while we're on the topic of Paul Verhoeven, the guy made the most successful (most seen) film in the history of Dutch cinema (1973's Turkish Delight) and put Rutger Hauer on the map with it. And did it again later with The Fourth Man (loosely remade later as Basic Instinct) which was a global hit and the most financially successful film made in the Netherlands.
[+] [-] dkdbejwi383|4 years ago|reply
I'd go so far as to state that a true film "fan" appreciates both high-brow and popular cinema. There's no such thing as a "guilty" pleasure if you truly enjoy something.
[+] [-] heavenlyblue|4 years ago|reply
Same thing with Starship Troopers which by itself is also quite a funny piece of political satire apart from creative use of gore and trashy characters.
What is arthouse for you? A man and a woman speaking french and driving into the sunset?
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