[Valkhyr]

Frankly, anybody who thinks that Apple is out for anybody but themselves is living in a dream.

[dev_tty01]

Please inform us of any for-profit publicly held companies that are not "out for themselves." Presumably by "themselves" you mean the stockholders. All companies are legally bound to make decisions to benefit the company. Apple is like every other company in this regard.

[Valkhyr]

Congratulations for restating my point in different words.

However, many people who are into Apple tend to ascribe some kind of benevolent or even altruistic motives to the company and its actions.

[silexia]

Google in the early 2000s genuinely cared about users. Now it is full of dark patterns especially in Google ads. This is what happens when you lose your founders.