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denverkarma | 4 years ago

The person took paid medical leave, and when that ended, was offered unpaid leave. They didn't want to use unpaid leave, they wanted to "use their earned vacation." But the person did not understand - apparently still does not understand - that there is no accrued vacation.

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babycake|4 years ago

There is no accrued vacation ok... but he is supposed to get 'unlimited' vacation days, right? So if you take that word 'unlimited' at face value, that means he should be able to take some days off to take care of his wife.

Unlimited PTO is part of his compensation package for working at this company, so while he didn't 'accrue' vacation in the traditional sense, he's still entitled to his PTO.

So in the end, it doesn't matter whether he accrued them or not, his PTO is his to use. And he was denied that.

He even stated that his manager was the one who stated to him that he had at least 20 days off:

> When I joined, my manager told me exactly how many days I have: "federal holidays + 20 days", which is considered "quite generous for the US" (exact quotes)

So it's not even on him that he thinks he's earned 20 days.

What difference does it make if he 'earned' his PTO vs using his 'unlimited' PTO? I don't understand why this distinction is being made in the context of the article. If it's just to say that companies can deny PTO because it's not federally protected, well, that's an even bigger problem. Maybe it should right? Either way it makes the company look bad.

denverkarma|4 years ago

I agree with you about how it looks reading only this persons story. However, my experience with Atlassian was that taking PTO is no problem, and normally a request like this would not have met pushback. From what I know of the situation, there was a lot more to it than this.