[saalaa]

But we're way past decorators and comprehensions. I don't understand why people focus on these 2 features to fuel the debate here.

Point is Python used to be a complete yet simple language with few constructs. It more or less followed the path of least surprise and people revered it for that. For several years, it feels like PEPs just add more and more clutter to that foundation.

It sort of looks like an arms race and I just don't get why or what's going on. Certainly, Python doesn't feel the same anymore.

[rightbyte]

Python has turned into the C++ of dynamic languages, but without the speed. My feeling is that Python is suffering the same fate as Pascal, where a "teaching and prototyping language" is used for things it was not intended for. Programmers that grew up with Python want more features, not thinking about the next generation of programmers.