[sinemetu11]

> Getting people to stop beef in countries where it's not a problem is a waste

It's a problem. Most americans consume way more meat than what they could possibly need and they do it because they've heard they need lots of protein which could come from many other sources besides dead animals.

[Zababa]

Again, America is not the only country in the world and is not the country that I was talking about when I said "beef in countries where it's not a problem".

> Most americans consume way more meat than what they could possibly need and they do it because they've heard they need lots of protein

I doubt that's true. Meat has always been rich people's food, especially beef, and people like consuming like rich people.

> which could come from many other sources besides dead animals

Is the problem ecological or moral here? If the dead animals were more efficient than the other sources (which they sometimes are), would it still be a problem?

[sinemetu11]

In which cases are the animals more efficient?

Most americans are consuming 100+ grams of protein a day (its very likely all of that coming from meat - I don't know anyone who consumes a lot of beans).[1] Average person needs about .36 grams of protein per pound of body weight.[2]

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/28/well/eat/how-much-protein...

[2] https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/how-much-protein-do-you-...