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bumbada | 4 years ago

>Why are you leaving out the context that the principal defense alliance is with America specifically in defense against Russia?

Specifically against the Soviet Union, a communistic totalitarian regime that does not exist anymore.

Specifically it never included Ukraine as member, and specifically the US promised that NATO will never expand to more than the original members.

The only countries in Europe that are against the NS2 are those that have already pipelines or interests and are economically harmed by more competence.

>Claiming that the US is acting purely in self serving motives is wildly disingenuous.

Claiming that the US is acting purely in self serving motives is telling the truth. The US can mind its own business.

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sergeykish|4 years ago

Specifically Russian Federation has invaded Ukraine.

Specifically after signing Budapest Memorandum (Ukraine's nuclear disarming).

Specifically after signing Russian–Ukrainian Friendship Treaty.

Specifically without even admitting invasion!

This totally invalidates all the claims regarding NATO. That's defense alliance, everyone who has missed opportunity to join is a total fool.

Russian Federation is autocratic regime, just look at the last "elections".

East Europe countries were under USSR occupation for 40 years. Poland is going to switch to LNG to break dependency on RF gas.

anticodon|4 years ago

Specifically after Ukraine attempted to join NATO since 1991.

Specifically after Ukraine made speaking Russian illegal and started treating Russian speaking population as second class citizens.

Specifically after Ukraine made plans to give Crimea to US to build a US military base.