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monkeyfacebag | 4 years ago

> without hard work any luck presented would be useless

Can you say more about why you’re convinced this is true?

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seibelj|4 years ago

It is self evident. If you meet someone at a conference who opens a door (like an interview), but you didn't work hard enough to pass the interview, then you got lucky but didn't put the work in.

I view "the hustle" as the hard work. You need to constantly try and improve your craft while simultaneously networking and putting yourself out there. When the stars align you meet the right person who can help translate the skills you developed via hard work into success.

There are exceptions to every rule of course, but I find the general premise of working hard and trying to make your own good luck to be a reliable success indicator.

Being born into good fortune helps tremendously, but I have met rich kids who became nothing as well as poor kids who became absurdly successful. Life is simply what you make of it, and there is no "one true path" to follow.

monkeyfacebag|4 years ago

I mean, not to discount the value of working hard or anything, but you describe this as a self evident truth when it can't possibly apply across the board. I am an existence proof. I've had to work relatively little for my success, including in interview situations. Again, this is not to say that I believe hard work has no place, but to frame hard work as some kind of self-evident key to success is exactly the disingenuous framing I expect from leadership seminars.