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dqx | 4 years ago
Most of the rioters were armed. There are a couple videos of the riot if you don't believe me. You're moving the goals posts so that beating a cop with a flagpole until he's dead, throwing fire extinguishers, swinging axes, or planting pipe bombs counts as being "unarmed". Christopher Alberts was caught inside with a loaded handgun.
"DC is no guns," wrote an Oath Keepers member on Facebook, "so mace and gas masks, some batons." They had to remind them to only bring certain weapons to their peaceful protest.
Officer Mike Fanone claims Trump supporters reached for his weapon shouting "kill him with his own gun." He must be exaggerating!
> There hasn't been a single conviction related to insurrection or anything more sinister than rioting or trespassing to date.
Oh wow, you really didn't know. Jon Schaffer plead guilty to entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon. Why didn't you remind him he was unarmed before he plead guilty?!
> given the lack of firearms and damage
Damage estimates range from $1.5 to $30 million. Do you read the news?
twofornone|4 years ago
The point once again (the "goalposts") was not whether they were armed, but why they would stage an insurrection without guns. And it is an established fact that save for 1-2 out of, what, 300+? There were no guns. Because this was a protest which turned into a riot, not an insurrection.
>that beating a cop with a flagpole until he's dead, throwing fire extinguisher
The original articles referenced an officer being beaten to death with a fire extinguisher. Note that if you have been keeping up, they have all since been quietly retracted/deleted because the entire story was a fabrication. The officer died of a stroke within days of the protest, not from injuries.
>They had to remind them to only bring certain weapons to their peaceful protest.
This is pure speculation and its quite a stretch. The vast majority of participants weren't actually part of any of the so called "far right" groups (e.g. oathkeepers, boogaloo boys, or whatever the media's boogeyman of the day happens to be).
>"kill him with his own gun." He must be exaggerating
Yet not a single officer was killed so, again, not much of an insurrection.
>Damage estimates range from $1.5 to $30 million. Do you read the news?
From heavily biased sources. If you watched any of the livestreams you'd see protestors constantly telling each other not to damage anything. Can you find me any pictures or videos of damage on that scale?
>Jon Schaffer plead guilty to entering a restricted building with a dangerous weapon
Straight from the horse's mouth[0]:
>admitted that he breached the Capitol on January 6, 2021, wearing a tactical vest and armed with bear repellent
So still no guns and guilty of attempting to obstruct certification. Hardly an insurrection, and only one person. Where is the coup?
You have been mislead by political theatre and are spreading misinformation.
0. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/lifetime-founding-member-oath...
dqx|4 years ago
> The vast majority of participants weren't actually part of any of the so called "far right" groups (e.g. oathkeepers)
LOTS of self-recorded evidence shows that isn't true.
"wait for the 6th when we are all in D.C. to insurrection [sic]"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2021/03/24/capitol-attac...
We know many members of the Proud Bois were there (since arrested). The Oath Keepers even had their little logos printed on their hoodies! You linked to an admission of guilt from a founding member of the Oath Keepers, you...do realize that right?
> The officer died of a stroke within days of the protest, not from injuries.
Strange, the medical examiner disagreed, saying "all that transpired played a role in his condition." Hmm he was pepper-sprayed and beaten by a violent mob, only to die of a stroke hours later. What a cowinky-dink!
The other officers had no history of mental illness. After being beaten by a violent mob, their partners described them as acting unlike their usual selves, shortly before committing suicide. Another chance coincidence I guess!
The medical examiner said of Officer Jeffrey Smith that the "acute, precipitating event that caused the death of Officer Smith was his occupational exposure to the traumatic events he suffered on January 6, 2021." Are you really that gullible?