As someone whose only experience with linux is servers and Raspberry Pi, can you tell me what's wrong with snaps? I've only used them on a self-hosted NextCloud and my experience with them has been decent, but I see a lot of dislike for them on HN.
In their mind it makes sense: firefox is a user facing app that is frequently updated and requires a lot of dependencies. Perfect candidate for a snap.
But yeah, up to now, snaps really sucked, and flatpak is winning.
I've been fighting to keep Unity as long as I could, but it's now breaking too often so I accepted my gnome shell fate. It requires 10 plugins, one app, and manually crafted .desktop files to be usable, but ok, it's free software, I'll adapt.
I understand the rational to also push for wayland first now, but it breaks my workflow for things like autokey. We do need to move from X11, but once again, something I will have to work with.
And now Firefox is a snap, which is slow, has permissions problems all around (guaranteed the sandbox will break some addons), takes a lot of space, etc. Again, I get it, it's a perfect candidate to push the tech, and they need to solve user facing apps distribution problem with linux.
I like Ubuntu a lot. I donate to it. I don't want to migrate to Manjaro or something else. Ubuntu is the sweet spot for things working out of the box.
But with 21.010, I really feel like at least moving to Elementary or PopOS right now. Tried them, the first one can't install (EFI partition is too small), the second breaks on my machine.
I don't like KDE, so I guess, next is Xubuntu? Something else?
Isn't pop also gnome? You can install pop shell which is an extension. It adds tiling, which isn't for everyone.
I'm like you don't like the fact that defaul gnome is so bad that I need a bunch of extensions. But I don't like KDE either, looks so inconsistent, too much pointless blurring and animation. However, I guess other choices are worse because they would have some other flaws that you can't even find extensions to work around.
Canonical has been doing some great work with Ubuntu. Though now I wonder if the desktop Linux is dead. With WSL rapidly improving with each release, how many devs really want to deal with the configuration of a Linux system?
This comment made me laugh out loud. There's no way I'd prefer Windows + WSL to a proper Linux install. I can't stand my OS trying to advertise to me, Windows is a PITA to install/maintain, and I strongly prefer the Gnome UX to Windows (or Mac).
With the Steam deck motivating developers to get their games running on Linux (mostly via Wine), with better performance, I see the opposite potential. Linux share on Steam has been steadily growing.
To be fair Linux on laptops is still occasionally problematic from a battery life POV, but we're often comparing community support to vendor official support not just the operating systems. Increased motivation from vendors to support Linux should help round out hardware support.
The reason I run desktop Linux isn't because it has a particular feature I want. It's to get away from all the Windows features I don't want — bloat, bundleware, ads, telemetry, forced AV, forced cloud features, forced reboots...
I think the linux marketshare among devs is still increasing, even with WSL available. WSL is in fact one of Microsoft's attempts to lure back developers to their OS, or never make them switch.
For some folks, like you, this might actually work. But they've lost me as a user since more than a decade and I doubt I'll come back out of my own volition. Even with WSL, Windows is full of bloat, slowness, and I am fully exposed to Microsoft's user-harming antipatterns.
Obviously, if a developer sees it as "deal with the configuration" then no, go with macOS, Windows or any other zero-config operating systems. But many see that part as a feature, not something to "deal with", and for those Linux is rescue in a sea of the infantilization Apple and Microsoft engage with.
I feel the opposite way. What does Windows have to justify the thousands of dollars necessary to put Windows on every machine in my organization outside of its deadeye security updates team?
Excited for the new changes that kernel 5.12 and 5.13 bring. Especially NVidia+Wayland and the hotplugging of AMD GPUs. Let's hope NVidia will follow soon with this functionality (but I doubt it).
Updated a bit ago and it is a fantastic release so far. Yaru is very mature by now and the speed improvements for animations in Gnome 40 are very evident.
[+] [-] u10242|4 years ago|reply
Canonical finally managed to make me switch back to Debian.
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[+] [-] BiteCode_dev|4 years ago|reply
But yeah, up to now, snaps really sucked, and flatpak is winning.
[+] [-] 3np|4 years ago|reply
That being said, in general 21.10 looks like a good incremental update.
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[+] [-] ur-whale|4 years ago|reply
Oh, ouch!
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I understand the rational to also push for wayland first now, but it breaks my workflow for things like autokey. We do need to move from X11, but once again, something I will have to work with.
And now Firefox is a snap, which is slow, has permissions problems all around (guaranteed the sandbox will break some addons), takes a lot of space, etc. Again, I get it, it's a perfect candidate to push the tech, and they need to solve user facing apps distribution problem with linux.
I like Ubuntu a lot. I donate to it. I don't want to migrate to Manjaro or something else. Ubuntu is the sweet spot for things working out of the box.
But with 21.010, I really feel like at least moving to Elementary or PopOS right now. Tried them, the first one can't install (EFI partition is too small), the second breaks on my machine.
I don't like KDE, so I guess, next is Xubuntu? Something else?
[+] [-] gavinray|4 years ago|reply
https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/q6xvv0/pop_os_2110_...
Having nothing but great things to say about this distro. Favorite Linux distro I've used.
[+] [-] nsonha|4 years ago|reply
I'm like you don't like the fact that defaul gnome is so bad that I need a bunch of extensions. But I don't like KDE either, looks so inconsistent, too much pointless blurring and animation. However, I guess other choices are worse because they would have some other flaws that you can't even find extensions to work around.
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[+] [-] sagarm|4 years ago|reply
With the Steam deck motivating developers to get their games running on Linux (mostly via Wine), with better performance, I see the opposite potential. Linux share on Steam has been steadily growing.
To be fair Linux on laptops is still occasionally problematic from a battery life POV, but we're often comparing community support to vendor official support not just the operating systems. Increased motivation from vendors to support Linux should help round out hardware support.
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[+] [-] bobince|4 years ago|reply
So WSL doesn't help me, really.
[+] [-] est31|4 years ago|reply
For some folks, like you, this might actually work. But they've lost me as a user since more than a decade and I doubt I'll come back out of my own volition. Even with WSL, Windows is full of bloat, slowness, and I am fully exposed to Microsoft's user-harming antipatterns.
[+] [-] xet7|4 years ago|reply
Windows 11 does run only on limited amount of hardware.
Because of covid, availability of hardware is limited anyway.
Old Mac and Windows computers do not run newest macOS and Windows anymore. So I have installed Linux
Factory customers etc don't want to deal with Windows on factory floor anymore, so they are porting software to Gambas on Linux.
Usage of desktop Linux is increasing all the time.
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[+] [-] Flimm|4 years ago|reply
See the release notes and search for "ZFS": https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-release-notes/21...
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