[anaphor]

Named-data networking is literally what this is describing, except NDN works as a replacement for TCP, not HTTP. In the long term I'd rather have it work at a lower level and not have to think about it much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqGEMQveoqg

[xccx]

NDN is the way

p2p no huge IP infrastructure between nodes

interest packets at narrow waist (like human attention, scarce)

sign all packets, more secure, easier to trust|not

hash for pointers, no surprises in containers

crypto apply more cryptography, less web3 baloney

broadcast radio native, no emulation of copper wire

data, closer to where you want, find faster, keep

content you want w/out intermediation, need to find "where" within IP/udp/tcp addresses

https://youtu.be/P-GN-pYfRoo?t=1825 node to node

https://youtu.be/yLGzGK4c-ws?t=4817 more application, less security hassle

http://youtu.be/uvnP-_R-RYA?t=3018 hash name the data

https://youtu.be/gqGEMQveoqg&t=3006 data integrity w/out need to trust foreign server

[yoursunny]

NDN can work as a replacement for IP too, running directly over Ethernet or other link layer technology.

[Ericson2314]

Well IPFS, or else something like it, need to establish the network/utility, and then we can increasingly optimize it with dedicated stuff at lower layers. I don't think going straight to the hard parts is going to work without much more government policy to push through the investment -- seems strictly harder than going the 0-cost overlay-network only approach, because clearly we are demand-constrained not efficiency-constrained.

I was tipped off to https://twitter.com/_John_Handel/status/1443925299394134016 which I honestly think might be the approach to think about how networks in a broader sense than regular telecommunications are bootstrapped.