[smhost]

Well, what's the alternative? You can either have a truly mulitcultural society like China, where the government spends a lot of effort elevating minority cultures, building cultural centers, and arabizing the infrastructure; or you can have a deeply racist society that leaves its minority population to rot in prisons and sewers, or to leave it to its worst vices, all in the name of so-called "freedom".

[jablongo]

How is China "truly multicultural"?!? Society is dominated by Han-Chinese and cultural elements who are sufficiently different are sent to re-education camps.

[esarbe]

It feels so wrong to defend China here but...

.. they've actually quite some affirmative action in place for native non-Han cultures.

This is primarily to play them off the Han and to not give local independent movements too much of a cause.

But they are actually trying.

Dang. That felt weird.

[simonh]

I don't think those are the only options, and I would not describe the systematic cultural and racial suppression of minorities in China as 'elevating'.

And oh look, whatabout-ism. What a surprise.

[dang]

Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're flaming for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[smhost]

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[dirtyid]

>truly multicultural

Well that was the old minority policy, based on Soviet o'blasts. Relatively hands off autonomous governance with affirmative action privileges. And it failed to stop terrorism and seperatism. So enter a new minority policy of sinicizing / integrating everyone like a US melting pot instead of a Canadian salad bowl. It’s the alternative, and it’s mostly working on the ground.

As for the big question:

>How long do I have to go on before you decide the price is too high

Start with understanding the list of western grievances =/= PRC grievances. Apart from Tiananmen, your list is basically populist repression the average Chinese supports. PRC repressing less than 1% of population to control restitive territories that constitutes ~50% of PRC land mass while essentially stopping terrorism and seperatism is very easy political calculus. The reality is most countries repress more people, especially minorities to ensure security and serenity. This isn't whataboutism, it's important to understand from CCP perspective current repression isn't remotely a high price to pay. Rather the opposite, cracking down on groups who have been historically "ungrateful" about their "privileges" are populist moves.