[jamesfe]

Is it? How do they bill you without knowing how much data you transferred? How do they debug what went wrong with your connection without logs?

This stuff is barely scratching the surface of the data those companies collect and maintain, likely for long periods of time, just to analyze and improve customer experience.

[unethical_ban]

As if ATT gets on the line with end-users to debug site-specific issues!

Aggregate data usage is one thing, but retaining any kind of detailed logs on where one goes or how much data was used on a specific site is unnecessary for the base provisioning of network connectivity.

[fulafel]

I interpreted this to mean they log traffic per web site:

> data transfer volume of every web site that I visited over their network

[snuser]

without net neutrality this could be useful for future billing arrangements

[jjulius]

>This stuff is barely scratching the surface of the data those companies collect and maintain, likely for long periods of time, just to analyze and improve customer experience.

Heh, just to analyze and improve customer experience? Nothing else a bit more unsavory?

[tablespoon]

>> This stuff is barely scratching the surface of the data those companies collect and maintain, likely for long periods of time, just to analyze and improve customer experience.

> Heh, just to analyze and improve customer experience? Nothing else a bit more unsavory?

The point is this data would get captured regardless, surveillance or no. Mass surveillance (at least in this matter) often isn't so much about what gets captured, but how long it gets retained and who gets access to it.