[madoublet]

Apple on the desktop is not in a good space. If you take performance out of the equation, the new Pro laptops just look and feel years behind what Microsoft is doing with Windows 11 and the Surface. MacOS was really fantastic a few years ago. It was lightweight and great for development and design. But, now it just feels old and bloated.

[supernovae]

I agree, and it feels like a notch on such an expensive device is the perfect troll.

I am happy though that real keyboards are back.. I hope the notch doesn't make it to other devices...

It's my hopes that M1 and ARM in general can make massive inroads simply because of power efficiency, but I hope for it to be done outside a walled garden and I hope it can adapt to the X86 "builder" space... Otherwise its just a matter of time before Intel/AMD catch up (and bechmarks of new Intel leaks appear to be doing well - and i'll be honest, i have no complaints on my current gen intel or amd either)

[baal80spam]

> If you take performance out of the equation

But why would you take _the most important metric_ out of the equation...?

[madoublet]

Strongly disagree. I think there are certainly use cases around video and 3D design that performance is _the most important metric_. But, hardware performance has not been an issue for general computing or software development in a few years. The problem with MacOS is around usability. It is just not on par with Windows 11, ChromeOS, or even iOS. They haven't evolved the software to meet modern computing and it really shows.