I'm a big fan of this form factor, specifically just big enough to fit a motherboard/CPU/RAM plus a real-size GPU. These all use SFX PSUs and typically just an M2 SSD on the motherboard. They also have only 2 RAM slots.
The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC.
It's a niche, boutique market but there are some really interesting cases. My personal favourite is the Louqe Ghost S1 [1]. I've built one PC with this (the Mk II). I bought a Mk III case but couldn't source a GPU so ended up just buying a CyberpowerPC prebuilt (which is actually a pretty nice PC, to be fair).
They're not cheap and they're kind of annoying to buy. Louqe in particular has had huge distribution problems in the US (through Amazon's logistics service).
Another popular one is the Dan A4 [2]. It's smaller. I personally prefer the Ghost for having better airflow, being more modular and being able to expand the case with "top hats". This allows you to add a 240mm AIO and bottom fans for some pretty darn good cooling and airflow.
Anyway, I'm always excited to see entrants in this market.
Agreed. There's an entire world of Small Form Factor cases available now with great features.
This Teenage Engineering chassis is neat and has a cool aesthetic, but it's definitely a form-over-function design. Great if you're going for a certain vibe, but not ideal for a high power build, or even a quiet mid-range build.
Those tiny fans and limited ventilation holes are not going to cut it for anything but a very low-power build. I'd be looking at the lowest power CPUs and GPUs available for this case. I'm not even sure why they limited it to such small (read: loud) fans when they seem to have the space for larger fans.
My last two builds (going about ~7 years) have been mini ITX. The builds tend to be more frustrating (I wouldn't say harder; just more frustrating and longer), but the end result is always more pleasing.
The biggest thing that I wish were more accessible within the mini-ITX form factor is 10Gbps ethernet. Maybe with thunderbolt it could now exist as an external dongle, with the right motherboard, but internally there's few options today. Very few mini-ITX boards offer anything faster than 1Gbps, and of course have no additional PCI-E slots (despite the chipset bandwidth being more than ample).
I believe Intel's enthusiast Alder Lake chipset (x690 IIRC) specifies 2.5Gbps ethernet as minimum spec, which is nice; but it ain't 10Gbps. This is something that Mac just plain-out does better, no argument; the Mac Mini has had 10Gbps ethernet as an option for years.
I had a mini ITX case (Node 202) and liked it well enough once it was all closed up, but even with a modular power supply it's a bit of a mess to get all the cables to fit, and it was a nuisance to open back up. The case went together with plastic clips that would rather snap off instead of releasing.
But last time I upgraded my computer I switched to micro ATX and I'm happier with that size. Any maintenance or upgrades are a breeze with room to get your fingers around the components, I didn't need to buy a special low profile CPU cooler, it's small enough, and if I need an extra PCIe slot for something I've got it.
The new computer is mounted it to under my desk where it's out of the way. Unless you're carrying your desktop around to LAN parties I think this is an overall nicer solution to "desktops take up space" than tiny form factor cases.
I like handles. I had mac pros with them (g4 and original). My system76 mini desktop has a nice case and is significantly lighter, but the handles are a nice touch.
The mention literally crashing the machine on the original design when the case broke, hopefully means this one is quite sturdy.
Big annoyance with SFF builds is noise. Many of these are overall smaller than just my GPU and CPU cooler, and SFX PSUs have smaller fans and aren’t available in passive configurations. And they’re usually more expensive than a more normal-sized build.
I bought a Louqe Ghost S1 from the original Kickstarter, I still love it. Solid as a rock, really high quality. There are a few minor design issues like the tophats warping if you screw them in too hard but otherwise it's the perfect form factor (plus it looks great).
I built it with a 1080ti etc and it's had no cooling problems apart from the 2 m.2 ssds getting a little toasty (alleviated by adding a fan under where the psu sits; I cool using a 240mm radiator in the top so the motherboard wasn't getting much airflow from that).
I think being able to fit MicroATX gives you a bit more options and they are not that much larger. From the picture I would have guessed it could fit it. Nice overall look though.
r/sffpc is solid with a spreadsheet covering parts, cases, etc for compatibility and more. I just moved into a Lian Li Q58 from an SG05, bigger but cooler.
I have plenty of room so I like my tower, thank you very much. I have plenty of room and it allows me to play with various disk combos and multiple video cards. I love the mac mini for other reasons and use it as a NAS and multimedia center in my living room where space is as a premium for hiding away stuff. There is no reason to assume no one else has a need for other form factors than these mini computers.
> The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC.
Have you seen the air-cooler on a threadripper ?! :-)
I don't really disagree with you but I like my old tower box because it has lots of room and easy to work on, and I realize that was why I liked my old car because engine compartment had lots of room to work.
>I'm a big fan of this form factor, specifically just big enough to fit a motherboard/CPU/RAM plus a real-size GPU.
This doesn't really fit any decent GPU at 180 mm. I think the single-fan ASUS RTX 3060 Phoenix is 177 mm and would just fit, but I'd be a bit worried about the cooling at that point.
The Dr Zaber Sentry case is also pretty good http://zaber.com.pl/sentry/. I'm not sure they will make them again though. Mine is pretty nice, though you need to be careful about your GPU size.
> The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC
If you want a powerful space saving device, get a powerful laptop. If you want power, cooling, adaptability and room you get a tower.
This mini desktop form factor is the worst of both worlds.
There are laptops with 16 threads, a 3080, 2x nvme and 2x ram slots and weigh 5lbs that run at 70C at full throttle, 40C idling - oh and integrated 3 hour UPS.
A tower otoh can fit 8+ disks, 2 or 3 gpus, plenty of quiet cooling and most importantly doesn't make you cuss every time you add/change a component because there is lots of room to get your hands in there.
You want a portable tower? Get one with handles on it. How often do you really move it anyway.
I don't know about this "boutique" vibe. For me the entire idea of a desktop PC is saying "no" to any trade-offs. There's so little actual difference in footprint between those and classic middle-tower that it actually does not make any sense to me. Instead I prefer to have an ability to infinite expansion and upgrade. What if I want a super wide bandwidth storage for some data processing? I will buy an expansion PCI card for like 40 bucks and put 4 M.2 NVMes there as RAID0 stripe. Having an ability to expand RAM instead of trading in is quite good too. And last, but not least, a question of price. $200 for a case without PSU?!
Recently bought a zotac magnus (pre-built). It was a little pricey because it came with a 3070 but easily expandable.
it takes 2 x m.2 ssd, 1 x 2.5" sata hd, 2 x laptop ram.
I agree wholeheartedly. I built my first ITX machine at the beginning of 2021, and the case choices were fairly dire. The Ghost S1 was sold out, and finding anything else with a decent aesthetic that didn't cost $200+ USD was near impossible. I settled on a Silverstone SG13, which is great utilitarian case, and supports decent sized GPUs.
Finding a GPU to fit a SFF case this year was a whole other issue, but I too am glad to see some more companies get into this space. I want some nicer ITX options, I want to see the variety that ATX and "larger" cases see.
I think anyone complaining about the price is missing something. Anything produced in small quantities will be expensive and I wouldn’t even assume they themselves thinks this product is gonna be profitable. I suspect a lot of the projects TE puts out is more about showcasing their design language to then be able to do collaborations with other brands like IKEA who can take a product to a broader market.
In other words their products are like business cards sold to a niche category of people who like products that look like a collaboration between Dieter Rams and Simone Giertz.
Its not for computer people it's for teenage engineering people. There's a big difference.
Not to be too mean about it (I do own an op-z) but there's a subset of synthheads who will buy whatever they put out.
The price is about double what i expect anyone else to sell it for so that is about on par with most of their stuff.
The most interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to give you a reason to want to buy it over some other mitx case. Its just "we made a small computer case it's small!". They're marketing to their own fans with this.
Not just assemble but actually bend/form the corners yourself.
Without the benefit of seeing it in the flesh, I fear either I would struggle to get accurate bends (which would annoy me for the rest of it's life) or the case has been made flimsy so it bends easily.
While the OP-1 is a unique musical instrument (sold a $700 10 years ago, now $1200 new, god only knows why...), these designers will make you pay a premium for most of their products, aside from the low quality pocket operators.
Niche product you’re buying for the design and aesthetic, 200 seems very fair to me.
I’ll never understand the complaining about case prices, it’s big enough to be a piece of furniture in your house, why wouldn’t you pay more for something that looks and feels premium or has a design you like.
Teenage Engineering had previously been victims of their own success.
They openly admitted that the reason why their prices are so eye-wateringly high — at least with another product of theirs, the OP-1 synth emulator — is because they can’t produce in high enough supply, and they got fed up with seeing scalpers / touts buying up all their stock and selling it on at twice the price.
On one hand mini ITX cases tend to come with a price premium if they're anything more than the most basic plastic case.
But on the other, usually you get excellent sound absorption, clever mounting solutions etc. At first glance this is an objectively bad case by the usual measures of high-end mini ITX cases.
This is another functional display piece for a designer's desk, just like the Playdate.
It's overpriced, but in a similar way to how a clay brick with Supreme stamped on it goes for hundreds of dollars.
Yeah, you can absolutely buy much cheaper cases. I think this type of thing is to appeal to people who like to look fashionable. The same group that forks over a couple of extra hundred bucks per build on RGB accessories.
I love 'no frills' PC cases, but to me, this case has frills. The bright orange, the rounded corners and all the cutouts. This PC case is a 'wow! what is that weird PC case!?' type of case. I like cases that you dont even notice: Sliger designs [1]
Re: mini itx cases, I'm surprised no one is mentioning the meshlicious case[1] (linking to Newegg because ssupd's website seems to always be so slow). The nice thing about this case is that it comes with a pcie riser allowing for some pretty large GPUs to fit in it.
Just did two builds in this case and absolutely love it! Re:Hair/dust, the side panels are so easy to remove that it's been no problem to just hit it with a duster every once in a while. It's small enough to easily take outside for a cleaning, compared to the effort needed to clean my full tower.
Interesting design! But I have to wonder how well it works in places with hairy animals in them, or places that have more dust than general (older buildings, exposed "hipster" walls and on so on). Cleaning the inside of the PC once a year would probably not be enough anymore.
I just built a Ryzen 5800x / B550i / RTX 3080 (well, 3080 is arriving tomorrow) to replace an aging i7-2600k + 980ti build mid tower, used an 18L CoolerMaster NR200p case [1], and pretty happy with that case overall-- lots of flexibility, though a bit bigger than most of the SFF PCs.
The Teenage Engineering case looks great as a non-gaming, everyday-use build, if a larger GPU isn't needed.
Having built ITX for NAS before I would highly suggest to get a SAMA IM01 mATX case which is almost as small as an ITX case and will let you avoid ITX price premiums on MB's, RAM, and GPX cards. mATX MB's are much cheaper and will give you lot more options.
That's a very expensive price for unassembled computer case with questionable aesthetics and missing many premium features of similarly priced products. I don't even think this is a good market fit. I don't think this case would be a good learning tool.
You don’t think there is a market fit and yet it’s already sold out? I am not defending the form factor or esthetics, but TE has a huge following and their products are usually very successful.
Given that the ncase is now out of production this may be one of the best sub 10L cases out there. Hybrid 2 slot card in my ncase would likely slot perfectly fine in this guy.
Also y'all gotta stop hating on this price it's actually very reasonable in the sff pc case market.
If you want a good mini-ITX case, just buy a Node 202. You can use it horizontally and put your monitor on top of it.
Buy power-efficient components and load it with the thickest and biggest Noctua PWM fans possible, and set the fan curves low, and its basically totally silent.
I have a node 202 with water cooling that I built specifically to run Half Life Alyx at max specs while traveling for work. Fits in a larger ebags backpack very nicely with all the Valve Index kit. Now that I beat HL:A and am not traveling for work it sits under my TV and is pretty much a dedicated Satisfactory machine via steam controller.
Tangent—Coming out of hours of fantastical sci fi VR escapism into a nondescript hotel room in <industrial center, USA> is a very surreal and memorable feeling.
Funny, I was just drafting an email to Teenage Engineering today begging for a replacement for my ancient iPod. Since this seems related I'll just paste in my notes here:
Dear Teenage Engineering,
Please make a modern FLAC (MP3, M4A, ...) player with your signature style and
OLED screen. Running Linux with USB keyboard capabilities for bonus points. No
wireless whatsoever, with songs transferred over USB mass storage protocol, much
like the OP-1.
(0) Seamless playback, shuffle, volume (normalization option?), balance, EQ, ...
(1) Song listings (why do so many music apps completely fail to simply list all my songs?!)
(2) Album, artist, etc grouping and sorting
(3) Search
(4) Album art
(5) ...
I'm actually on the lookout for a small case but for a different purpose - I want to build a NAS enclosure that will hold at least 4 full size 3.5" drives in the most compact form factor possible. I was hoping one of those might do the trick but they are not geared towards 3.5" HDD
The Fractal Node 304 is an ITX case which handles that use-case pretty well. It's the smallest ITX case I know of which can fit 6 full-size 3.5" drives.
powder coat doesn't flake if applied properly, and some coats are tested for and guaranteed to withstand a 180 degree bend without disturbance.
the PDF manual explicitly warns to bend only once. i expect repeating or reversing would cause striations/stretch marks at the seam, which would be actual openings in the metal exposing the raw aluminum underneath, not an adhesion failure of the powder coat.
I was actually just today looking at chassis like this for an upcoming build, really good timing! This looks really neat.
However, I'm leaning more towards a horizontal chassi (think like a piece of stereo equipment or something). I think it could be pretty nice to have it lying on a shelf / on top of a AV rack, and then run a Thunderbolt cable to a small desk nearby.
I found the F12C from Streacom [0] which matches my aesthetic bend perfectly (it is available without the hideous optical media slot). But it's a tad to thick.. Thinner by mounting the graphics card rotated with a raiser would be awesome. Any tips greatly appreciated!
I currently have a massive full tower PC that's water cooled and to be honest I hate it. Its great for gaming but otherwise I think I would much rather have a small mini-ITX pc like this that can be portable, and when I need to run demanding code I can just use a VPS.
You'd be surprised what kind of hardware you can put in an ITX case. You can, with some effort, build a water-cooled PC with a 5950x and a n RTX 3090 in under 15 liters of volume.
Does anyone have DIY designs (shapes to mill/laser cut) for something similar to this? I refuse to pay more than 50€ for a case, yet would like something somewhat compact and able to hold my 4 3,5” and 2 2,5” drives (cooling requirements are not very high).
I'm glad it's sold out. I was tempted to buy it even though I know I'd screw it up doing the bending and separating myself. I'm so bad at DIY. I know to buy extras and backups for everything because of how often I screw stuff up.
I’m still looking for a case and this one is pretty cute.
But of course I’m gonna complain about the price again. Even though this looks pretty innovative (I haven’t seen an “assemble yourself” construction like this before) and this looks something potentially leading to a huge price reduction (I’m gonna guess production cost is somewhere around the 10-25€ mark), it’s still … 200€??? Egh.
I guess they’re selling the brand.
But that’s also weird, because I would figure that people who care about the brand tend to not build their own computers (is this assumption wrong?), instead usually opting for the fruit brand.
> But that’s also weird, because I would figure that people who care about the brand tend to not build their own computers (is this assumption wrong?), instead usually opting for the fruit brand.
Mini-ITX computers are a niche among a niche market of PC builders. Form factor is inherently a consideration being made when you build one, given the added difficulty and compromises one must make to build one. In that sense, it's pretty obvious that people building such computers would care about the aesthetics of the case they're building in. This also isn't terribly expensive in the world of boutique mini itx cases, where one can easily spend double that on some of the more exclusive ones.
Yeah, it looks really nice indeed, which is unfortunately rare for PC cases. But no thanks, computing power and low noise are more important to me. Waiting for a nice looking and silent ATX case :>
I ended up going with the NZXT H1 for my mITX case, and while it has had issues I had to fix, I'm finally happy with it I guess. My competitor was the the Fractal Design 7 Compact had I gone ATX, so if you're diehard about this I'd recommend it, and it's also still very small: https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-...
That said performance and noise was a concern for me and I've overall ended up satisfied, you may be pleasantly surprised if you do your research. IMO the only actual thing that makes noise on any modern rig is the GPU (and I don't put spinning rust in anything except the server in the other room.) Everything else can be effectively silent even at the highest grade, and low-end GPUs can be tweaked to be nearly-silent as well if you aren't a gamer. Mine has 10TB of storage (2TB NVMe/8TB SSD), 64GB of RAM, a Zen 3 5600X, and a triple-blower RTX 3080, and I'm using it as my 4k gaming rig with a 144hz monitor rather successfully. I understand there are a lot of cases you might need even more oomph, though; I literally can't extract any more perf until Zen 4, I guess.
This is nice, but I just built my first ITX based SFFPC in the GEEK G1 SE and would consider it to have fewer frills, while not requiring assembly, and about half the price. I don't see it mentioned too often so wanted to share it as an option if you want to go this route but keep it simple. Great airflow too :)
https://www.geeekstore.com/shop/geeek-g1-se-miniitx-case/
I wonder what the RF emissions are like on that case.
Genuinely curious, if someone gets one, that has access to the proper test gear, could you look for RF spurs emitted from that chassis?
Some combos of circuit boards, in the wrong enclosures crush WiFi (and cellular). If you ever have persistent WiFi issues in your house, isolate your network gear (modem/router/AP) to a single circuit breaker, and just start killing circuits in the house until your problem goes away.
Then start turning things on until the problem returns.
Dug a bit for size info: "outer dimensions (mm): W 170 D 190 H 322"
So a bit over 10 liters. About the size of some gaming computers MSI used to sell (Nightblade, I think), for around 1k fully loaded with RAM, HD+SSD, Intel CPU, and Nvidia graphics. Plus led light bars, etc.
200 for an industrial looking orange case seems a bit of a fashion statement.
I just built a new computer with the XTIA Proto-N and I'm really really happy with it. It's super compact, easy to access and swap out components and quite pleasing to the eye. It's also not as expensive as a lot of closed m-ITX cases either. Highly recommended!
Since they give something very similar to blue-prints, can it be considered open source? Certainly no free (as in speech) because they say nothing about licensing.
Also, given I have dimensions and diagrams, how is called the type of service which builds it "from source"?
There's plenty of companies that will lasercut metal from a AI/SVG/DXF file. In the US, there's https://www.ponoko.com/
Any major city will have someone who can do this, though their website and pricing will probably be worse. Searching "laser cutting" in google maps gives eight different places in the Seattle metro area.
I think there are some small form factor 3060s and 3060 Tis that will fit in this case. If you want to fit a 3080 you're gonna have to look at bigger cases like the NR200 or Meshlicious.
They intentionally load a blurred image before the real image, as if you are viewing a progressive jpeg (for all their products, not just this chassis). highly annoying. i'll pass on this design aesthetic myself!
I really is an excellent design aesthetic. I would love to see what these folks would do with the notion of designing a modular home 'rack' system for in-home services.
is there any open design chasis? like a CAD file you can modify yourself? if you're living around shenzhen it's probably not expensive to find a manufacturer
cletus|4 years ago
The days of needing a tower are over for most people. I'm all about space-saving while still having a full-power PC.
It's a niche, boutique market but there are some really interesting cases. My personal favourite is the Louqe Ghost S1 [1]. I've built one PC with this (the Mk II). I bought a Mk III case but couldn't source a GPU so ended up just buying a CyberpowerPC prebuilt (which is actually a pretty nice PC, to be fair).
They're not cheap and they're kind of annoying to buy. Louqe in particular has had huge distribution problems in the US (through Amazon's logistics service).
Another popular one is the Dan A4 [2]. It's smaller. I personally prefer the Ghost for having better airflow, being more modular and being able to expand the case with "top hats". This allows you to add a 240mm AIO and bottom fans for some pretty darn good cooling and airflow.
Anyway, I'm always excited to see entrants in this market.
[1]: https://www.louqe.com/ghost-s1/
[2]: https://www.dan-cases.com/dana4.php
PragmaticPulp|4 years ago
This Teenage Engineering chassis is neat and has a cool aesthetic, but it's definitely a form-over-function design. Great if you're going for a certain vibe, but not ideal for a high power build, or even a quiet mid-range build.
Those tiny fans and limited ventilation holes are not going to cut it for anything but a very low-power build. I'd be looking at the lowest power CPUs and GPUs available for this case. I'm not even sure why they limited it to such small (read: loud) fans when they seem to have the space for larger fans.
Optimum Tech's YouTube channel has some great mini-ITX case reviews for anyone new to this space: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLv8HwYhBwOOpUFPiBs6QG...
015a|4 years ago
The biggest thing that I wish were more accessible within the mini-ITX form factor is 10Gbps ethernet. Maybe with thunderbolt it could now exist as an external dongle, with the right motherboard, but internally there's few options today. Very few mini-ITX boards offer anything faster than 1Gbps, and of course have no additional PCI-E slots (despite the chipset bandwidth being more than ample).
I believe Intel's enthusiast Alder Lake chipset (x690 IIRC) specifies 2.5Gbps ethernet as minimum spec, which is nice; but it ain't 10Gbps. This is something that Mac just plain-out does better, no argument; the Mac Mini has had 10Gbps ethernet as an option for years.
wlesieutre|4 years ago
But last time I upgraded my computer I switched to micro ATX and I'm happier with that size. Any maintenance or upgrades are a breeze with room to get your fingers around the components, I didn't need to buy a special low profile CPU cooler, it's small enough, and if I need an extra PCIe slot for something I've got it.
The new computer is mounted it to under my desk where it's out of the way. Unless you're carrying your desktop around to LAN parties I think this is an overall nicer solution to "desktops take up space" than tiny form factor cases.
arvinsim|4 years ago
[1]: https://www.coolermaster.com/sg/en-sg/catalog/cases/mini-itx...
acomjean|4 years ago
The mention literally crashing the machine on the original design when the case broke, hopefully means this one is quite sturdy.
formerly_proven|4 years ago
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fennecfoxy|4 years ago
I built it with a 1080ti etc and it's had no cooling problems apart from the 2 m.2 ssds getting a little toasty (alleviated by adding a fan under where the psu sits; I cool using a 240mm radiator in the top so the motherboard wasn't getting much airflow from that).
raxxorrax|4 years ago
Size comparison motherboards for reference: https://www.gamersglobal.de/sites/gamersglobal.de/files/user...
Personally I use a midi tower at home.
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ChuckMcM|4 years ago
Have you seen the air-cooler on a threadripper ?! :-)
I don't really disagree with you but I like my old tower box because it has lots of room and easy to work on, and I realize that was why I liked my old car because engine compartment had lots of room to work.
Hamuko|4 years ago
This doesn't really fit any decent GPU at 180 mm. I think the single-fan ASUS RTX 3060 Phoenix is 177 mm and would just fit, but I'd be a bit worried about the cooling at that point.
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zepolen|4 years ago
If you want a powerful space saving device, get a powerful laptop. If you want power, cooling, adaptability and room you get a tower.
This mini desktop form factor is the worst of both worlds.
There are laptops with 16 threads, a 3080, 2x nvme and 2x ram slots and weigh 5lbs that run at 70C at full throttle, 40C idling - oh and integrated 3 hour UPS.
A tower otoh can fit 8+ disks, 2 or 3 gpus, plenty of quiet cooling and most importantly doesn't make you cuss every time you add/change a component because there is lots of room to get your hands in there.
You want a portable tower? Get one with handles on it. How often do you really move it anyway.
SergeAx|4 years ago
m463|4 years ago
Recently bought a zotac magnus (pre-built). It was a little pricey because it came with a 3070 but easily expandable. it takes 2 x m.2 ssd, 1 x 2.5" sata hd, 2 x laptop ram.
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fetus8|4 years ago
Finding a GPU to fit a SFF case this year was a whole other issue, but I too am glad to see some more companies get into this space. I want some nicer ITX options, I want to see the variety that ATX and "larger" cases see.
gambiting|4 years ago
Puts|4 years ago
In other words their products are like business cards sold to a niche category of people who like products that look like a collaboration between Dieter Rams and Simone Giertz.
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LegitShady|4 years ago
Not to be too mean about it (I do own an op-z) but there's a subset of synthheads who will buy whatever they put out.
The price is about double what i expect anyone else to sell it for so that is about on par with most of their stuff.
The most interesting thing to me is that they don't seem to give you a reason to want to buy it over some other mitx case. Its just "we made a small computer case it's small!". They're marketing to their own fans with this.
beachy|4 years ago
Without the benefit of seeing it in the flesh, I fear either I would struggle to get accurate bends (which would annoy me for the rest of it's life) or the case has been made flimsy so it bends easily.
Beautiful web site and digging the orange though.
throw_m239339|4 years ago
And behold their 600€ radio:
https://teenage.engineering/products/ob-4
Yes, I said a radio.
While the OP-1 is a unique musical instrument (sold a $700 10 years ago, now $1200 new, god only knows why...), these designers will make you pay a premium for most of their products, aside from the low quality pocket operators.
whywhywhywhy|4 years ago
I’ll never understand the complaining about case prices, it’s big enough to be a piece of furniture in your house, why wouldn’t you pay more for something that looks and feels premium or has a design you like.
gorgoiler|4 years ago
They openly admitted that the reason why their prices are so eye-wateringly high — at least with another product of theirs, the OP-1 synth emulator — is because they can’t produce in high enough supply, and they got fed up with seeing scalpers / touts buying up all their stock and selling it on at twice the price.
shantanujoshi|4 years ago
fnord77|4 years ago
https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/s620/
BoorishBears|4 years ago
But on the other, usually you get excellent sound absorption, clever mounting solutions etc. At first glance this is an objectively bad case by the usual measures of high-end mini ITX cases.
This is another functional display piece for a designer's desk, just like the Playdate.
It's overpriced, but in a similar way to how a clay brick with Supreme stamped on it goes for hundreds of dollars.
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nightowl_games|4 years ago
1: https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus/
elromulous|4 years ago
[1] https://www.newegg.com/black-ssupd-meshlicious-mini-itx/p/2A...
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bwbmr|4 years ago
The Teenage Engineering case looks great as a non-gaming, everyday-use build, if a larger GPU isn't needed.
[1]: https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/mini-itx/masterbo...
djanogo|4 years ago
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811197012
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shantanujoshi|4 years ago
Also y'all gotta stop hating on this price it's actually very reasonable in the sff pc case market.
nbzklr|4 years ago
davidjfelix|4 years ago
wackget|4 years ago
Fools and their money...
mey|4 years ago
Factorium|4 years ago
Buy power-efficient components and load it with the thickest and biggest Noctua PWM fans possible, and set the fan curves low, and its basically totally silent.
sbierwagen|4 years ago
In horizontal mode you have a choice of obstructing the CPU or the GPU vent. It comes with feet, but they're not very tall.
blamazon|4 years ago
Tangent—Coming out of hours of fantastical sci fi VR escapism into a nondescript hotel room in <industrial center, USA> is a very surreal and memorable feeling.
icedchai|4 years ago
nixpulvis|4 years ago
Dear Teenage Engineering,
Please make a modern FLAC (MP3, M4A, ...) player with your signature style and OLED screen. Running Linux with USB keyboard capabilities for bonus points. No wireless whatsoever, with songs transferred over USB mass storage protocol, much like the OP-1.
(0) Seamless playback, shuffle, volume (normalization option?), balance, EQ, ... (1) Song listings (why do so many music apps completely fail to simply list all my songs?!) (2) Album, artist, etc grouping and sorting (3) Search (4) Album art (5) ...
- 64GB minimum
- ~100x50x10mm
- IO:
qwertox|4 years ago
gbrindisi|4 years ago
I am constantly searching for good itx cases but at this point given the prices I see I’d rather buy an Ender3 and print one myself.
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ruined|4 years ago
the PDF manual explicitly warns to bend only once. i expect repeating or reversing would cause striations/stretch marks at the seam, which would be actual openings in the metal exposing the raw aluminum underneath, not an adhesion failure of the powder coat.
filleokus|4 years ago
However, I'm leaning more towards a horizontal chassi (think like a piece of stereo equipment or something). I think it could be pretty nice to have it lying on a shelf / on top of a AV rack, and then run a Thunderbolt cable to a small desk nearby.
I found the F12C from Streacom [0] which matches my aesthetic bend perfectly (it is available without the hideous optical media slot). But it's a tad to thick.. Thinner by mounting the graphics card rotated with a raiser would be awesome. Any tips greatly appreciated!
https://streacom.com/products/f12c-atx-case/
PascLeRasc|4 years ago
But the Node 202 would be the much cheaper option.
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Hamuko|4 years ago
For example https://www.thermaltake.com/core-g3.html or https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?area=en&pid=488
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zemo|4 years ago
- made by an evil society-destroying corporation
- sold out forever
actually_a_dog|4 years ago
solarkraft|4 years ago
But of course I’m gonna complain about the price again. Even though this looks pretty innovative (I haven’t seen an “assemble yourself” construction like this before) and this looks something potentially leading to a huge price reduction (I’m gonna guess production cost is somewhere around the 10-25€ mark), it’s still … 200€??? Egh.
I guess they’re selling the brand.
But that’s also weird, because I would figure that people who care about the brand tend to not build their own computers (is this assumption wrong?), instead usually opting for the fruit brand.
least|4 years ago
Mini-ITX computers are a niche among a niche market of PC builders. Form factor is inherently a consideration being made when you build one, given the added difficulty and compromises one must make to build one. In that sense, it's pretty obvious that people building such computers would care about the aesthetics of the case they're building in. This also isn't terribly expensive in the world of boutique mini itx cases, where one can easily spend double that on some of the more exclusive ones.
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aseipp|4 years ago
That said performance and noise was a concern for me and I've overall ended up satisfied, you may be pleasantly surprised if you do your research. IMO the only actual thing that makes noise on any modern rig is the GPU (and I don't put spinning rust in anything except the server in the other room.) Everything else can be effectively silent even at the highest grade, and low-end GPUs can be tweaked to be nearly-silent as well if you aren't a gamer. Mine has 10TB of storage (2TB NVMe/8TB SSD), 64GB of RAM, a Zen 3 5600X, and a triple-blower RTX 3080, and I'm using it as my 4k gaming rig with a 144hz monitor rather successfully. I understand there are a lot of cases you might need even more oomph, though; I literally can't extract any more perf until Zen 4, I guess.
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greyhair|4 years ago
Genuinely curious, if someone gets one, that has access to the proper test gear, could you look for RF spurs emitted from that chassis?
Some combos of circuit boards, in the wrong enclosures crush WiFi (and cellular). If you ever have persistent WiFi issues in your house, isolate your network gear (modem/router/AP) to a single circuit breaker, and just start killing circuits in the house until your problem goes away.
Then start turning things on until the problem returns.
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B1FF_PSUVM|4 years ago
So a bit over 10 liters. About the size of some gaming computers MSI used to sell (Nightblade, I think), for around 1k fully loaded with RAM, HD+SSD, Intel CPU, and Nvidia graphics. Plus led light bars, etc.
200 for an industrial looking orange case seems a bit of a fashion statement.
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marcodiego|4 years ago
Also, given I have dimensions and diagrams, how is called the type of service which builds it "from source"?
sbierwagen|4 years ago
Any major city will have someone who can do this, though their website and pricing will probably be worse. Searching "laser cutting" in google maps gives eight different places in the Seattle metro area.
thedailypickup|4 years ago
Do they focus on audio gear (synths, speakers, ect..) clothes, computer cases?? Product lines seem all over the place.
fuzzythinker|4 years ago
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jdhawk|4 years ago
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orliesaurus|4 years ago
so I think the answer is...nope :(
now the next question is: what GPU can I fit that's dual and 180mm?
twostorytower|4 years ago
Mine stays cooler than my tower, somehow. Was not easy to build, but damn it is sexy.
https://imgur.com/a/1hXg2Sz#db15yTr
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footlose_3815|4 years ago
Their modular synths are particularly terrible, and have so much structural give when you just put your hands on it. Reminds me of an erector set
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pier25|4 years ago
With all those gaps you'll need to push fans harder to get the same cooling and keep dust out.
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ofou|4 years ago
It looks amazing!
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walrus01|4 years ago
I can buy a pretty nice mini-itx cube shaped case on newegg for 80.
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