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Zarathust | 4 years ago

In Canada you can still buy that over the counter. You get id-ed and they keep a record of your purchases, but since it's now generic pills it is now much cheaper than it was before

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wirrbel|4 years ago

I grew up in Germany in a household that never used nasal decongestants, probably out of some fear that they might be dangerous.

When in Canada a doctor told me to buy some pseudoephedrine pills to treat a clotted ear and I found the experience so nice, that when back in Germany I walked into a pharmacy to get some.

The looks...

jkhdigital|4 years ago

Japan is similarly puritanical about stimulants. Might have something to do with the way those drugs were used in those countries during the war…

WillPostForFood|4 years ago

It is the same in the US, but the FDA calls it "behind the counter". OTC means you grab it off a shelf yourself, BTC means the pharmacy checks your ID, and gives it to you, but still no prescription required.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-drug-class/legal-requi...

Broken_Hippo|4 years ago

OTC just means "Over the counter" or "without a prescription". A good way to test this is to see if your health insurance in the US will pay for it - most won't pay for OTC drugs.

Behind the counter just means there is less chance of folks stealing it and more control over who buys it and the amounts they buy.

There is generally a good amount of things you can get at the pharmacy that are like this: Most of the time, they are simply ordered if someone wants them because there isn't enough demand to keep it on the shelf. Most require no ID either: Sweet almond oil (for ears) is the example I can think of.

Related: In some states, they require a prescription for it because their laws are stricter than the federal guidelines.

kragen|4 years ago

OTC normally means that it doesn't require a prescription.

ceejayoz|4 years ago

It's the same in the US; you can buy it without a prescription, but you have to have your ID logged.

Rebelgecko|4 years ago

There's also an age minimum. My freshman year of college I had the sniffles and a bad cough. I went to the pharmacy to get some Sudafed but couldn't purchase since I was still 17. Went to the school's health center where the doctor happily prescribed me opioids (the infamous purple drank).

HideousKojima|4 years ago

And there's a limit on how much you can buy at a time, you can only get 15 24-hour pills every 15 days, which means you need a regular pharmacy trip

sneak|4 years ago

A few pharmacies weren't set up to take either a foreign ID or a US passport when the program started.

I ended up just buying it on Postmates, delivered, no ID check.

PontiacParade|4 years ago

We'll be there soon. You still need a prescription in Oregon until Jan 1, 2022.

snek_case|4 years ago

That really surprised me once. I was traveling in the states and wanted to buy pseudoephedrine, and the guy asked me for my id, asked me to sign a log book, and then proceeded to unlock a giant safe behind him.

rodgerd|4 years ago

New Zealand banned it some years ago and I'm still pissed off. The supposed replacement is clinically useless, and I resent suffering through massive head pain from clogged sinuses every winter, while professional gangs still make money hand over fist from meth.

I was in Vegas some years back and got some under the laxer US rules, and have enjoyed a few years of having it available, but alas my supply has run dry.

firecall|4 years ago

Can you order it from an online Australian pharmacy?

Or know someone here who can ship some over to you?

They ID you in Oz, but it's fairly easy to get. Pharmacists know the PE stuff is junk!

I've also found Ritalin works as a decongestant too! (for which I have an ADHD prescription)

gunfighthacksaw|4 years ago

I didn’t get IDed either of the times I’ve bought a box.

First time was in 2019: I went to Walmart for something for my ears on flights, after some back and forth the pharmacist recommended me pseudoephedrine.

Second time was in Sobeys last month (can fly again, yaaay) and I asked for it directly. The pharmacist had some trouble finding it, but sold it to me with no further issue.

kens|4 years ago

Chances are that you bought the useless Sudafed PE. The (original) Sudafed is pseudoephedrine. Sudafed PE is phenylephrine. The molecules are similar, but the latter cannot be easily converted to methamphetamine so it is not regulated like the former. Sudafed is an effective nasal decongestant, while Sudafed PE is equivalent to a placebo. [1]

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19230461/

AnotherGoodName|4 years ago

Keep an eye out if you purchased Sudafed PE or Sudafed original. PE is a new product that has old fashion Acetaminophen and is sold just like any other painkiller since that's all it is. It doesn't work well at all compared to the pseudoephedrine found in the behind the counter product.

Scoundreller|4 years ago

A bit of a change was that it became pharmacy-only in many (most?all?) provinces. But pharmacies are everywhere, so not a huge deal.

Sad thing is many products were reformulated with phenylephrine, an uncontrolled similarly structured molecule that's completely junk as a decongestant.

rjsw|4 years ago

Can still buy it over the counter in the UK too.