[bpizzi]

> Wrong. My 2-year old loves videos of trains, both from this perspective and showing the trains themselves. She can last longer than 30 seconds, and is thrilled by them way longer than me (the videos are pretty, but I find trains boring).

My two 8/10y old boys won't. Great, there's two data point now, we can plot a trend!

> The screen itself is addictive.

Is a switched off screen addictive too?

If your answer is along 'of course not, I just said that content can vary, use your brain, fill in the gaps geez', then that was exactly my point to the GP: no, screen are not systematically addictive per-se, the addiction lies in the viewer's behavior when consuming a specific content.

[the_af]

I'm sorry, I can't agree with your point.

You were generalizing, I showed you an instance were what you said didn't hold; and I know more cases. You bet that train videos were boring to kids and I proved you wrong in the general case.

> Is a switched off screen addictive too?

This question is absurd. A switched off screen is, for all intents and purposes, not a screen.

My argument is that my kid and many others are instantly attracted to screens as long as they show motion and sound, and that it doesn't have to be a children's cartoon or song.

Switched on screens remain powerful attractors for many children.

[bpizzi]

> You were generalizing,

The GP was!

> I'm sorry, I can't agree with your point.

At least we're getting somewhere!

gp: Screens are extremely addictive to kids

me: wrong, any kid will not like train video

you: wrong, mine is, the screen itself is addictive.

me: no, screen are not systematically addictive per-se, the addiction lies in the viewer's behavior when consuming a specific content, or are switched off screens intrinsically addictive?

you: this is absurd, a switch off screen is not a screen, let me rephrase for you: switched on screens remain powerful attractors for many children

Next round is where we agree that, actually, its the content showed on a switched on screen that can or cannot trigger attraction for a child: yours is ok with trains, mines are not.

But I'll stop here, that was fun, but I've got some other things to handle.