[deanc]

73% [1] of couriers don't want to be employees (in Finland). They are quite happy with this arrangement as it means they are paid more. The survey that was conducted was quite thorough and interesting. It's worth a read.

(Just stating facts here, don't have an opinion myself on this)

[1] https://blog.wolt.com/fin/2021/06/23/taloustutkimus-majority...

[mschuster91]

Classic short-term fallacy. Yes, you get more net payout as a "contractor" - but you don't get paid sick leave or pension contributions unless you care for these on your own.

This is why this model is very frowned upon by European societies as it inevitably leaves taxpayers to pick up the tab in the form of basic social security.

[jarcane]

You don't even get paid more. The apps have been circulating this myth in the press, but it's based on obfuscating of the numbers at best, and outright lies at worst.

There's a reason most of their couriers are immigrants: anyone else can get paid more stocking a supermarket or driving a cab.

[deanclatworthy]

Maybe. But remember that the employees themselves voted on this. This was done by an independent auditor.

[zpeti]

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[Ekaros]

Being non-employee at these income levels is just horrible deal. Miss quite many things from pensions to possible unemployment benefits and possibly even paid vacation.

It only really starts to become reasonable if you can bill yourself as consultant in fields like IT.

[Sharlin]

There’s also no reason an employee couldn’t have fully flexible hours if the business model is suitable anyway. Well, in principle no reason, anyway, in practice current employment legislation and collective agreements in Finland place limits on working times because historically the risk of employers voluntelling employees to work less-than-pleasant hours has been deemed too high.

[AnssiH]

Employment does not have to mean fixed or restricted work times.