[caente]

> I used to be excited by programming language features instead of what problem I was actually trying to solve with programming. I'd spend hours condensing 10 lines of perfectly working code into 1 line of the most concise text possible (...) they should be impressed by what the program does for them, not what language features you used to implement it.

Interestingly, what made me go through similar evolution was the very language in which I was trying to do all those things, namely Scala. After a few years of trying to be "smart", I realized that the problem was usually bigger than the language.

So perhaps, it wasn't Go, nor Scala, who helped us in our realization, but life and experience?

[throwaway894345]

Our individual lives and experiences don't make the package manager better, though. Rather, Go's package manager (and its overall philosophy more generally) is good because Go was developed by people who had a lot of "life and experience". And it seems intuitive to me that someone who uses a language with a strong, mature philosophy would influence even more junior users.

[agumonkey]

I believe he has a point. Go was from day one trying to walk a different path. It was wisely dumb, pragmatic, simple (even though yeah verbose on many fronts). It changes your focus on external value rather than internal value.