[dazag]

Wait until the winter ends and we talk. But it seems the vaccines don't work, all around the world, no matter the % of people vaccinated.

[sschueller]

It is working. Sure infections are going up but a lot less people are dying or have to go to the hospital[1]. In Switzerland you can also very clearly see the Kantons with the lowest Vaccination rates have the highest new infections now.

[1] https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/taeglich-aktualisierte-grafi...

[HonestOp001]

Perhaps.

The key thing that gets left off of that statement: are we treating it better based on the science of the last year.

Is that study financed? Close your eyes and think if an agency would even try to apply for that research project.

We all know the answer.

[makeitrain]

All evidence I've seen shows the vaccines drastically reduce chance of infection and severity of symptoms. What are you referring to?

[AnimalMuppet]

There's work, and then there's work.

A polio vaccine means that I won't get polio. A rubella vaccine means I won't get rubella. A Covid vaccine means that I'm only 10-40% as likely to get Covid. (Chime in with more accurate numbers if you have them.) And it means that I'm less likely to get a severe case.

That's not nothing. It's significant, both to me as an individual, and for society-wide epidemiological reasons. But it's not the same as the other vaccines. "One of these is not like the others."

And, yeah, I might get a one-in-a-million breakthrough case for polio or rubella. One of these things still isn't like the others.

So: The Covid vaccine works, but it doesn't work - not in the same way that other vaccines do. (In the same way, the flu vaccine works, but doesn't work.)