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SandersAK | 4 years ago

kinda buried the lede, didn't they?

"However, according to the EMA, the benefits of both mRNA shots in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks, the regulator said, echoing similar views expressed by U.S. regulators and the World Health Organization."

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y7|4 years ago

The first sentence of the article is a lot better (emphasis mine):

"France's public health authority has recommended people under 30 be given Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine when available instead of Moderna Inc's Spikevax jab, which carried comparatively higher risks of heart-related problems."

belter|4 years ago

Views who change all the time.

"Researchers find a higher than expected risk of myocarditis in young men after full vaccination."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/health/researchers-find-a...

Particularly this one from article above:

"...Boys between 16 and 19 years of age had the highest incidence of myocarditis after the second dose, according to a second study in the journal. The risk of heart problems in boys of that age was about nine times higher than in unvaccinated boys of the same age..."

Edit: The article above has a quote that I find fascinating

"Myocarditis is among the concerns that may have led the Food and Drug Administration to ask Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna to enroll more children in their vaccine trials. Potential side effects are likely to dominate the discussion when agency advisers meet next week to review the evidence for a vaccine in children aged 5 to 11 years."

What kind of person voluntarily enrolls their children in vaccine "trials"?

thatfrenchguy|4 years ago

> What kind of person voluntarily enrolls their children in vaccine "trials"?

People who want the pandemic to end and everyone’s children to be safe?

dekhn|4 years ago

a relative risk sounds large, but the underlying rates of myocarditis are incredibly low, so the total impact of this is fairly small.

Turing_Machine|4 years ago

> What kind of person voluntarily enrolls their children in vaccine "trials"?

Okay, I'll bite.

Exactly how do you propose demonstrating the safety and effectiveness of a vaccine (or any drug) in children without running clinical trials where you test it on actual, you know, children?

dazag|4 years ago

Unsane people, in my opinion. Please not that I wrote unsane and no insane, these have different meanings

darkerside|4 years ago

It does make one wonder if it's a representative sample

enkid|4 years ago

Something being nine times more common does not make it common. Myocarditis is extremely extremely rare. Making it nine times more common would still make it extremely rare. This has not changed the overall calculus for the vaccine. It's still better to get it then to not.

AutumnCurtain|4 years ago

Saying the French recommend one vaccine over the other for a given age group won't get the clicks and attention of a skirting-around-antivaxxer headline, and the comment engagement generated by drawing in antivaxxers to conflict with pro-vaccine commentators will further amplify its signal.

323|4 years ago

This is a Reuters article. They don't do that. They are also not really into "engagement", they get their money in other ways (subscriptions).