The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that those who are unvaccinated with symptoms of COVID-19 get tested to see if they have an ongoing infection. The same recommendation applies to children of school age and older, i.e., from about 6 years of age. Younger children of preschool age are primarily advised to stay at home if they are ill, without taking a test. The regions decide which people should be tested. There may be regional variations from the national recommendations, so you need to find out what applies in the region where you are.
There are many posts here deriding the Swedish "success", claiming that the low SARS2 incidence is either caused by not testing, by only testing unvaccinated, that Sweden used to have a higher incidence and more of such. All these replies are missing the significance of the fact that Sweden, possibly due to the fact that it never locked down, that it never hid children behind masks, that life has been far less affected than in neighbouring countries now may well have a better chance of riding out the "fifth wave" without the spikes seen in other countries. In other words, the Swedish approach may actually have been the better one by limiting the duration of the epidemic. Time will tell but if this ends up being true let it be a lesson for all those who call for stringent measures.
The problem is that I only look at the death number. It's too difficult to compare the number of cases, because there is a lot of asymptomatic cases, and very mild symptom cases and the detection depends how much each country is testing. Death are more difficult to hide.
It seems claims about Sweden are the go-to for people thirsty to promote vaccine and lock-down skepticism. It’s just sad, because the claims are always eviscerated, yet they keep going back to the Swedish case as if this time it’ll be different.
I'm not sure if you're jesting, but I was wondering about that. Does this indicate that they have run closer to "completion"? Or that they're just lagging a few weeks behind the rest of Europe this time?
Spain and Italy are also somewhat lower than Germany, Austria, etc., which would fit the theory of just having more cases early, but Belgium and the Netherlands (also early high rates) are much higher. Also, per capita mortality in Sweden and France is quite similar the entire pandemic, but France seems to be seeing more of an uptick.
But, again, it will be an anomaly more in need of an explanation if it actually persists for more than a week or two, and there is still at this point the possibility that it is simply a delay in spiking upwards compared to the rest of Europe rather than not doing it at all.
Because it’s misleading, countries have different methodologies and different coverage for testing Sweden doesn’t test vaccinated and only tests symptomatic unvaccinated, it also doesn’t do testing for children on any substantial level.
In the UK for example children are tested with lateral flow tests multiple times a week and each lateral flow test that isn’t negative also then requires a PCR test.
Also it seems that Sweden only accounts for PCR tests for reporting of cases, many countries now report positives from both PCR and antigen testing.
So this is still pushing the narrative that Sweden was right to not enforce a lockdown, which can easily be used to push the narrative that the looming lockdowns across Europe aren’t needed or won’t help.
[+] [-] zosima|4 years ago|reply
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency...
[+] [-] 1cvmask|4 years ago|reply
The Public Health Agency of Sweden recommends that those who are unvaccinated with symptoms of COVID-19 get tested to see if they have an ongoing infection. The same recommendation applies to children of school age and older, i.e., from about 6 years of age. Younger children of preschool age are primarily advised to stay at home if they are ill, without taking a test. The regions decide which people should be tested. There may be regional variations from the national recommendations, so you need to find out what applies in the region where you are.
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[+] [-] gus_massa|4 years ago|reply
Edit: I just notice my link is for confirmed death, and you say confirmed cases https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor... Sweden is still above the average of Europe.
The problem is that I only look at the death number. It's too difficult to compare the number of cases, because there is a lot of asymptomatic cases, and very mild symptom cases and the detection depends how much each country is testing. Death are more difficult to hide.
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[+] [-] rossdavidh|4 years ago|reply
Spain and Italy are also somewhat lower than Germany, Austria, etc., which would fit the theory of just having more cases early, but Belgium and the Netherlands (also early high rates) are much higher. Also, per capita mortality in Sweden and France is quite similar the entire pandemic, but France seems to be seeing more of an uptick.
But, again, it will be an anomaly more in need of an explanation if it actually persists for more than a week or two, and there is still at this point the possibility that it is simply a delay in spiking upwards compared to the rest of Europe rather than not doing it at all.
[+] [-] nabla9|4 years ago|reply
The weak are dead & vaccinations work.
Covid-deaths per 100,000 during the epidemic:
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[+] [-] dogma1138|4 years ago|reply
In the UK for example children are tested with lateral flow tests multiple times a week and each lateral flow test that isn’t negative also then requires a PCR test.
Also it seems that Sweden only accounts for PCR tests for reporting of cases, many countries now report positives from both PCR and antigen testing.
So this is still pushing the narrative that Sweden was right to not enforce a lockdown, which can easily be used to push the narrative that the looming lockdowns across Europe aren’t needed or won’t help.
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