[realrocker]

> The more businesses move to SaaS models, automation takes a different shape as well, i.e automation scripts involving business objects within/outside the system.

Well put. I see this getting applied to cloud infrastructure too. Cloud providers are increasingly offering their products as pure software objects on which traditional software engineering principles can be applied. I have been experimenting with using typescript to define infra components for last 18 months and have seen higher code contributions from non-operators(most of them are typescript practitioners) w.r.t terrafrom or ansible.

[slightly shameless plug] Recently started using Deno + typescript and its even better. My thoughts on this here: https://adnaan.badr.in/blog/2021/11/20/deno-for-infrastructu...

[andreineculau]

I can double down on that. I have developed a pattern to use any language (but we used js/python) to generate cloudformation templates. This has started in 2016, long before CDK. The idea originated in GCP's docs where they present both jinja and plain python as a way to generate iac.

I often got asked "what about terraform?" Yes, what about it? It is a +1 in our stack, lagged (maybe not now) behind cloudformation releases, it still doesn't give you the benefits of a proper programming language, let alone one that many are familiar with, and we will not have a multicloud problem in the foreseeable future. So yeah, what about it?

In retrospect, there is a negative. The industry is brainwashed so looking for a new job becomes: but do you know terraform? Completely overlooking whether one could simply learn it :) it ain't rocket science