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>trolls

I hate their usage of 'troll' too. To me, 'troll' means a guy who argues about 0.9 bar not equaling 1 in a math forum. I have no idea what the hell these people mean when they say 'troll'.

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kitsunesoba|4 years ago

The modern definition of troll seems to be more closely related to one of the personalities that got its start at a particular notorious imageboard, who constantly posts flamebait and thrives off of pushing the limits of how much they can upset others. I haven’t seen the original more innocuous definition used in a long time.

Eelongate|4 years ago

Posting flamebait to troll precedes 4chan by many years. 4chan really isn't that old in the grand scheme of internet things, and isn't truly the originator of very much. Virtually any form of trolling you might find on 4chan was pioneered somewhere else many years before 4chan existed.

sneedenheimer|4 years ago

Oh, I consider flamebaiting trolling. But flamebaiting isn't cyberbullying or harassment or whatever these people think trolling means.

bmarquez|4 years ago

Trolling existed on Usenet long before 4chan.

https://gizmodo.com/the-first-internet-troll-1652485292

seoulmetro|4 years ago

Troll has come to mean "anyone who acts bad" to like 90% of the people who use it these days. It has no meaning anymore. "Trolling" just means "doing something I don't agree with".

questiondev|4 years ago

i am afraid that what they mean by troll is code for anyone who disagrees with their narrative

stirfish|4 years ago

But 0.9 bar isn't equal to 1. Oh! I see what you did there!

I think they are using it to mean something closer to "cyberbully", maybe.

mewse|4 years ago

> But 0.9 bar isn't equal to 1. Oh! I see what you did there!

This is a foundational problem in our anthropogenic decimal system of math (which we only use because of the evolutionary accident of a modal (n.b.: not average) human happening to have ten fingers); the whole issue doesn't even exist in the only correct representation of numbers, ternary (base-3).

For example, let's multiply 1 / 3 * 3:

In decimal `1.0 / 3.0 == 0.3 bar * 3 == 0.9 bar` and we've proven that 1 equals 0.9 bar, which is clearly nonsense and falsifies the whole concept of decimal representation of numbers.

In ternary, though, `1.0 / 10.0 == 0.1 * 10 == 1.0` -- see? no contradiction. Maths just work properly if you use the true numeric base.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I will not be taking any blasphemous questions from unbelievers about dividing and multiplying by two.