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adam | 4 years ago

Also relevant: replacing 4-way's with roundabouts in Carmel, IN: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/climate/roundabouts-clima...

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rootusrootus|4 years ago

I'm not sold, yet, on roundabouts improving safety over four-way stops. Pedestrians at regular intersections are pretty easy to spot. But when you come up to a typical roundabout, the road is twisting a little, you're looking to see what traffic is approaching the roundabout, and the crosswalk is usually right in the area where the road is twisting to line up for roundabout entry.

I don't know that I have any suggestion, though, to make it better other than try to keep pedestrians far enough from the roundabout that drivers can easily focus on them and not be distracted by more moving parts.

The argument that you are only crossing half the road at a time is fairly compelling, though. I guess there's a trade-off there.

michael1999|4 years ago

The big win as a pedestrian is you only have one direction to worry about at a time..

watwut|4 years ago

Roundabout have pedestrian crossing at the entrance - before you meet cars. Plus, they naturally force you to slow anyway.

timidiceball|4 years ago

Have you seen roundabouts of this scale in person? They aren’t meant for people to be around at all

martinald|4 years ago

Hahaha. Are you joking? It's somewhat rare in Europe not to have a roundabout like this. They are clearly way better for pedestrians. You only have to cross half the road before you get to a safer place.

Compare this intersection which seems to have been somewhat recently upgraded:

From https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9679819,-86.1403832,3a,75y,2...

To

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9679454,-86.1403837,3a,75y,2...

Notice that there is also now a bend in the road so a car physically has to slow down to navigate it, unlike miles of straight traffic light intersections.