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_Understated_ | 4 years ago

Not to hijack the thread: why is my post being flagged? I'm asking a genuine question!

I was linking to UK Government data here [0] and asking about the numbers.

They're not adding up. I want to know if my interpretation is correct

[0] - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

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stuartloxton|4 years ago

If you want to seriously discuss you should put which data points your comparing so others can also compare. When I look at that sheet and look at the rates comparing unvaccinated vs fully faccinated the death rate is lower for every age group when vaccinated.

* Comparing week ending 24th September 2021

fer|4 years ago

They're comparing different/dates/vaccination rates, classic Simpson's paradox. No adjusted data shows otherwise.

glial|4 years ago

You gave an inflammatory conclusion "we're all being lied to!" without showing how you reached that conclusion.

_Understated_|4 years ago

Perhaps I flew off the handle. Partly due to being flagged with no reply!

mshron|4 years ago

Look all the way over at "Second dose", the age-standardized mortality rate is 1.1 per 100,000 vs 5.4 per 100,000 for the unvaccinated. 5x protection against death.

mshron|4 years ago

Table 1, in the linked XLS file for data through 24 September. You can see that it was originally closer to 0.1 (50x protection against death) but it's gone up to 1.1 over the last few months, I'm guessing as immunity has started to wear off.

sharklazer|4 years ago

I don’t know myself, but this happens frequently. Any body can flag your posts.

eckmLJE|4 years ago

Untrue, I believe you need a certain amount of karma to be able to flag.

crate_barre|4 years ago

They don’t like this devolving into politics, which they really need to get over because the historical fact (when this is all said and done) is that Covid was heavily politicized by both sides in a variety of countries.

rout39574|4 years ago

I think it's more about unsubstantiated conclusions, hysterically presented.

If the original post had outlined the data points that led them to the (IMO erroneous) impression they reached, then the point could have been rebutted.