[jfrunyon]

> Respecting my property rights is actually an infringement on your liberty

No, disrespecting other people's property rights is an infringement on their liberty. You being told not to disrespect other people's rights is NOT an infringement on your liberty.

> Not being able to legally kill me without some just cause is also an infringement on your liberty

WTF?

> everyone agrees that its a matter of degree

Oh how I wish that were true. Not even most people can agree on that.