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temp | 4 years ago

Are those net or gross?

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elagrion|4 years ago

Gross. Most programmers will work as independent contractors and pay 5% in taxes. But keep in mind, 0 goes to your saving programs / pension and you have 0 employment protection, as you are not an employee, but private entrepreneur. You need to do plan for your retirement / unemployment entirely by yourself. The rent in Kyiv is $500 for a shoebox and $1000 for something adequate. Starting salary is $600-800 per month. So, you can afford a shoebox and to eat shit as junior dev :). Which is still better than a lot of industries here.

As high skilled engineer with 10 years of experience I make an $96 000 yearly, but I work directly for UK fintech company.

All things included SE still make a lot of money here, but nothing crazy. And trust me, living in California beats living anywhere in Ukraine at any day.

bauskas|4 years ago

Ukrainian engineer here. All compensations are quoted net. I don't know why people are telling you otherwise.

maiia_bocharova|4 years ago

We pay 5% tax (we work as Provate entrepreneurs), so there is not a big difference between gross and net for us.

andrii_ao|4 years ago

gross, but the taxes is super low in Ukraine (at least for programmers). Most of the programmers pay 5% from salary + 50$