[moksly]

In the past 5 years there’s been 1 rust job in my region of Denmark. It listed rust as a “nice to have”. I think it fares better in the Copenhagen region, but not by much.

This is not to rant on Rust, but betting on it having a brighter future than any of the other languages that came and went during the past two decades is probably a risky bet. Of course we’re lucky enough to be in a line of work where you can probably work with Rust for the next 50 years if you want to, but to “hype” it as the future language is just too silly and too vague for the front page of HN in my opinion.

I mean, Ruby was future, then Go was the future, now Rust is the future (add any other hyped languages you want, and here we are programming in JavaScript, Python, C++, JAVA, COBOL, PHP, C# and other “boring” languages that are probably older than some of the people who read HN, and that just isn’t likely to change much is it?

[jarcane]

> In the past 5 years there’s been 1 rust job in my region of Denmark. It listed rust as a “nice to have”. I think it fares better in the Copenhagen region, but not by much.

This is pretty much what killed me on it, and I think the leadership and community really don't understand that commodity development is important to language growth.

I like Rust and it opens up some interesting domains I don't get to play with much, but it's a considerable effort to learn it when I know there are zero real opportunities to use it professionally. I keep hearing hype about how this or that big giant company is using it, but none of them are hiring for it: it seems quite a few are just shifting internal C/C++ teams to Rust. The rare public openings are either a) demand extremely senior C/C++ level dev experience, or b) vague crypto/blockchain startups that reek of fly-by-night scams.

Far from the hope of "democratizing" systems programming, it seems like the industry has instead closed ranks around it and used it as a further gatekeeping tool to keep out entry or even journeyman level experience, and certainly anyone not already bathed in the old C languages.

I thought Rust was supposed to free us from C?

[CodeGlitch]

> and other “boring” languages that are probably older than some of the people who read HN

I can't remember who said this, but "use boring technology" is a well used strategy. Why take the risk with a new programming language when they old ones are well understood and offer a large hiring pool?

I won't be taking the time to learn rust until the jobs are there for them. It's a chicken and egg problem I know.