[American12143]

>Are we the baddies?

Yes, we are, and people will literally bury their heads in the sand every time our government cries about Russia, Iran, or China (despite the fact that none of those are invading any other countries). Not saying those countries never do bad things, but we are way worse, and even worse, we try to justify our actions with words like "democracy" and "freedom" which actually hurts those causes.

There is so much innocent blood on America's hands from just the last two decades alone, its really quite something unfathomable everytime I hear one of those CIA people cry about what Russia or China is doing.

[purple_turtle]

Russia invaded Ukraine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War ), captured Crime and there is ongoing conflict in Eastern Ukraine.

Russia invaided also Georgia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War ), with direct trigger caused by South Ossetian separatists but Russia was clearly prepared for war.

China has ongoing invasion of Bhutan by simply building roads and military bases in that country ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/07/china-bhutan-border-vil... )

China-India relation thankfully not reached invasion level but see say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%...

Believing that USA is perfect is delusional but your comment has multiple blatant lies.

[artificialLimbs]

Don't forget about Tibet - violently occupied by China since the.. what, 50's?

[DSingularity]

Don’t forget the Chinese oppression of the uighur. The scale is terrifying.

[kongolongo]

There isn't a single war without innocent civilian casualties caused by every side. At least this is under the guise of accidental, some nations do it on purpose.

[pksebben]

I don't think that's better. I want failure modes to occur early and as loud as possible when it comes to this stuff; otherwise it's easy to get away with bombing the shit out of civilians for, oh, I dunno, seventy some aught years.

But hey, we had to put a stop to that darned ole communism, didn't we? Couldn't have that. wouldn't be profitable or godly.

[standardly]

The burying of one's head in sand is in fact figurative, not literal.

[tinbad]

You must be kidding or willfully ignoring the atrocities committed by Russia just in the last decade or two (occupying Crimea, Afghanistan, wars in Chechnya, Georgia and likely Kazakhstan sometime soon) or China (Uyghurs). All in the sole interest of continuing their highly oppressive, dictatorial regimes.

[syki]

Well, the U.S. did torture priests in Latin America because of their social justice views. We’ve overthrown governments to support banana companies and had no problems supporting Saddam gassing Kurds since he was fighting the Iranians. We supported Papa Doc and for a while Noriega. Our government has experimented on it’s own people and has been involved in the drug trade. We’ve tortured innocent people with no one being held accountable. We spy on a grand scale on our own citizens. We’ve supported dictators and brutality when the people in power thought it beneficial to do so. I don’t think we can claim any sort of moral superiority over others. I’m not saying we are the worst but certainly we are no where close to the best. We are not a light on a hill as some of our presidents have proclaimed.