[American12143]

Okay...and? I said that neither China nor Russia are good actors (when I said invasions, I meant active ones, but I get your point), however, the U.S. is worse.

-The Russian invasion of both Ukraine and Georgia, summed together, had a civilian deathtoll of 4000+

-If we throw in the first/second Chechen war as well, we get a TOTAL civilian deathtoll of ~70k+

The U.S. killed 500k+ CHILDREN (not even accounting for adult civilians) with its Iraq sanctions (before the invasion), this is just ONE country of the MANY countries the U.S. has been a participant in destabilizing in the last two decades (and we're not even talking about Korea/Vietnam/supplying Saddam with chemical weapons/Gulf War/South American interventions)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8

If you want to look at it from a per capita standpoint, the U.S. has killed far, far more civilians than Russia has (not that this justifies even the death of a SINGLE civilian), but one must objectively come to the realization that the U.S. is the biggest force for civilian mass murder in the world.

You can dress it up as "it was for democracy and freedom", but I don't think anyone buys that anymore. They don't even sell it to us as that anymore, now its for "national security", which is the same excuse Russia and China make as well.