top | item 29619202

(no title)

beaned | 4 years ago

The vaccines were also lauded as 100% effective in the early days by Fauci and others, so just a reminder that time and reproducibility matter before being too confident about it.

discuss

order

xboxnolifes|4 years ago

I don't recall a single instance of 100% efficacy claim. It was around 92-97%.

BbzzbB|4 years ago

Can't see GP's comment (flagged, like 7/11 OP ITT) so I don't know if I'm on-topic or not. After Bourla's appearance on Lex's podcast and the latter's mention of a 100% claim on the blue bird app which the former denied (w.r.t. infection I believe), searching his account I came up with these. They're from March 31st (1) and April 1st (2 & 3, quoting 4), third would be most eye-brow lifting today. It is arguably misleading, or odd, to just mention 100% in a tweet on 95% CI with 53.5-100.0 brackets in the study.

1: 100% efficacy against COVID-19 disease for 12-15 year olds in phase 3

2: 100% efficacy against severe COVID-19 as defined by CDC

3: 100% efficacy in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa

[1] https://twitter.com/AlbertBourla/status/1377227340011483136

[2] https://twitter.com/AlbertBourla/status/1377586182519947264

[3] https://twitter.com/AlbertBourla/status/1377618480527257606

[4] https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

beaned|4 years ago

Here you go. I don't know anything about this website (found it from a google search) but the video montage has plenty of claims of 100%, and a "virtually 100% efficacious" quote from Fauci. The montage is in a meme format making fun of the situation, which is not my preference, and I don't intend to inflame by sharing such a take, it's just the most succinct thing I found.

It highlights quite clearly what I'd mentioned in my first comment, that time and reproducibility matter. I genuinely don't know why it was flagged.

https://news.grabien.com/story-twitter-user-video-showing-sh...

6nf|4 years ago

There's a well known tweet of Fauci saying 'all three vaccines are 100% effective'

jmarbach|4 years ago

You are arguing over semantics. In reality, the Pfizer vax has proven to be less than 10% effective at stopping a future infection.

junon|4 years ago

Show me a single claim they'd be 100% effective by an epidemiologist, please.