You started a hellish flamewar with this comment, exactly what the site guidelines ask you not to do. You also fueled it egregiously. That's seriously not cool and will get you banned here, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.
as I take a look at some of the comments in the threads about China, I wish you were more consistent with your stance, especially with comments on the opposite side of the spectrum.
Hacker News was supposed to be niche, but your inconsistency to demote threads of China (as they are consisntely upvoted), is now making Hacker News very generic.
You can ban me, I spend much more time reading than I do posting anyways.
But I know where Hacker news stands with their ulterior motives in doing so.
There is a gradient from cultural assimilation -> cultural genocide -> genocide. People quickly jump from former to the later.
Are there re-education camps? Yes. Is it cultural assimilation or cultural genocide? I don't know.
Are there genocide as we understood as Armenian genocide or the Holocaust? I don't think there are many data to support that claim. If we say these two are the same, from what I can gather, it also trivializes Holocaust.
Desmond Shum fled China with his son after his wife, one of the richest women in China, was disappeared back in 2017. He was told all sorts of things, like a bullet was put in her head, but supposedly she called him briefly shortly after the book was published (he doesn't know for sure). His son (12 years old) often cries uncontrollably, as his mother has disappeared and not contacted him in years. He gives a detailed explanation of how business and power works in China, and to say it is anything like America or other Western liberal countries would be patently absurd.
High power is always corrupted. Even today we have Kennedy assassination, Eperstein, Assange. Desmond Shum is connected to Wen Jiabao. No 2 in China at its time. You think dealing with these people is not dangerous?
CCP is bad in different way than any other political organizations.
That does not make China unique in any significant way at all.
Please do not take HN threads further into generic, hellish flamewars. This sort of shallow, angry denunciation is not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.
If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. You've broken them in other places recently, too—not cool. Fortunately your good comments are good.
> there's really no excuse for what China is doing to Uyghurs atm.
First make sure everyone agrees upon what happened to Uyghurs first.
China is closed to foreign examination in the sense that they do not want to show all the details. But BBC and western media decide that that's a legitimate excuse to allow manipulative reporting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8EceIa1MQ&t=101s
You are not going to get people to be honest, if you try to force that with lies.
dang|4 years ago
If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN, we'd appreciate it.
fc373745|4 years ago
Hacker News was supposed to be niche, but your inconsistency to demote threads of China (as they are consisntely upvoted), is now making Hacker News very generic.
You can ban me, I spend much more time reading than I do posting anyways.
But I know where Hacker news stands with their ulterior motives in doing so.
Almost evil.
fc373745|4 years ago
why haven't you banned the user chunghuaming?
his account is EXCLUSIVELY devoted to starting hellish flamewars.
Your hypocrisy is in suit of the entirety of western countries.
Western Countries are now on the wrong side of history for this one.
liuliu|4 years ago
Are there re-education camps? Yes. Is it cultural assimilation or cultural genocide? I don't know.
Are there genocide as we understood as Armenian genocide or the Holocaust? I don't think there are many data to support that claim. If we say these two are the same, from what I can gather, it also trivializes Holocaust.
seibelj|4 years ago
Desmond Shum fled China with his son after his wife, one of the richest women in China, was disappeared back in 2017. He was told all sorts of things, like a bullet was put in her head, but supposedly she called him briefly shortly after the book was published (he doesn't know for sure). His son (12 years old) often cries uncontrollably, as his mother has disappeared and not contacted him in years. He gives a detailed explanation of how business and power works in China, and to say it is anything like America or other Western liberal countries would be patently absurd.
justicezyx|4 years ago
High power is always corrupted. Even today we have Kennedy assassination, Eperstein, Assange. Desmond Shum is connected to Wen Jiabao. No 2 in China at its time. You think dealing with these people is not dangerous?
CCP is bad in different way than any other political organizations. That does not make China unique in any significant way at all.
isoprophlex|4 years ago
dang|4 years ago
If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. You've broken them in other places recently, too—not cool. Fortunately your good comments are good.
justicezyx|4 years ago
First make sure everyone agrees upon what happened to Uyghurs first.
China is closed to foreign examination in the sense that they do not want to show all the details. But BBC and western media decide that that's a legitimate excuse to allow manipulative reporting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8EceIa1MQ&t=101s
You are not going to get people to be honest, if you try to force that with lies.
trasz|4 years ago
fc373745|4 years ago
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