[moksly]

> it would be surprising to me if hospitalization or deaths aren’t noticeably lower

Here on vaccinated Denmark this is the truth. But we’re actually approaching last years levels regardless because of just how many people are getting covid this year. It’s more manageable thanks to the very high vaccination status, but we seem to have been too slow with the 3rd hit for a major part of the population. I have two shots myself, and my family is all in covid isolation all tested positive and “looking forward” to spend Christmas with ourselves and not our families. It’s not too bad for any of us, it’s not pleasant either, but the biggest thing for me is how much we’re having to shut down despite the high vaccination percentage.

You can’t go to a movie or actual theatre. Bars close at 22:00. Most major Christmas parties (this is a big thing here) have been cancelled. But the biggest impact is on culture business like the theatres, concert houses, Christmas markets, museums and so on. If covid is going to be a recurrent thing every winter, then I think that we’re going to see some drastic changes to those aspects of society.

[spookthesunset]

Maybe you should, I dunno, ask why your government hasn’t built up healthcare capacity instead of forcing some dystopian “new normal” nonsense on people?

[trhway]

what is the point of those lockdowns when 1. practically everybody is vaccinated and thus gets no symptoms or only light disease (and according to the latest science - superimmunity after that) and 2. the delta's and now omicron's transmissibility is so high among both - vaccinated as well as unvaccinated - that everybody susceptible to it (i.e. 30-70% of population, and anecdotally it seems to me that for covid it is on the lower end, ie. like 1/3rd) will get it (or omicron++) in the near future anyway (and the thing becoming endemic like flu).

I mean technically the lockdowns possibly make sense as a way to control the spread until a spread controlling vaccine (the existing mRNA ones aren't such) is widely applied - ie. that seems to be the case in China where initial spread was effectively controlled and they use inactivated covid virus vaccine instead of mRNA - though we don't know for sure because Chinese government info can be very different from reality.

[moksly]

We never had an issue with the delta variant. Omnicron is only now becoming an issue, so it’s the normal version that’s been the biggest issue so far.

I guess our government was too slow to roll out the 3rd shot since so many are affected.

The reason why we’re having lockdowns now is because the situation is that so many people are sick that we need to make sure there is enough people to staff things like power plants.

I don’t know about the light symptoms bit. I can’t remember the last time I felt this shitty, but I’m obviously not close to being hospitalised either. I’m probably fit for work by American standards, but I’ve been home sick since the 20th by Danish standards. This is very anecdotal of course, but I sure as shit don’t feel well.

[oneoff786]

Both if your premises are not accurate