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> Why should I trust what they have to say as opposed to, say, China’s government? Or any government at all that I did not vote for?
Yeah, the CCP has a great track record admitting their atrocities. Let’s totally trust them instead of the Uyghurs who are all collectively making this up out of spite.
Is this part of the playbook when training people on how best to deflect blame from China's sins? Seriously, I see it all the time.
Someone will share a well agreed upon anecdote of the horrors being committed by the Chinese, and without fail, one of the first responses will be whataboutism regarding the US government, as if that has any bearing whatsoever.
Nearly any civilized country around the world is in full agreement that there are horrific atrocities being committed by the Chinese, and it's largely due to economic bullying that we're forced to turn a blind eye.
If you resurrected Lenin, took him for a walk around Shanghai or Beijing and explained the deal to him he would be proud since so much of their political system is derived from Leninism, ergo communism. Even their market economy seems like a redux of Lenin’s NEP.
Don’t try pulling that tired old “not real communism” schtick, we all see through it. Another thing, if they weren’t communists, where is the incentive to keep up the charade with all the symbolism? Surely a rational non-communist polity would realize there is a lot to gain from dropping the whole red, socialist realism and adopt a more (post-)modern aesthetic.
dang|4 years ago
It's particularly important for users here not to sling toxic, sinister accusations at each other without evidence. Someone having a different view from you does not count as evidence. This sort of aggression is extremely common on the internet and is one of the things that accounts here most need to avoid. If you read the HN guidelines, you shouldn't have any trouble seeing which one I'm referring to.
RyEgswuCsn|4 years ago
Also when did UN called it a genocide? I googled it but found nothing specific. Mind sharing a link to the claim?
JumpCrisscross|4 years ago
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
marderfarker2|4 years ago
Why should I trust what they have to say as opposed to, say, China’s government? Or any government at all that I did not vote for?
I’m not a U.S. citizen nor on the payroll of CCP or whatnot.
pell|4 years ago
Yeah, the CCP has a great track record admitting their atrocities. Let’s totally trust them instead of the Uyghurs who are all collectively making this up out of spite.
honkdaddy|4 years ago
Someone will share a well agreed upon anecdote of the horrors being committed by the Chinese, and without fail, one of the first responses will be whataboutism regarding the US government, as if that has any bearing whatsoever.
Nearly any civilized country around the world is in full agreement that there are horrific atrocities being committed by the Chinese, and it's largely due to economic bullying that we're forced to turn a blind eye.
OtomotO|4 years ago
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mlindner|4 years ago
gunfighthacksaw|4 years ago
Don’t try pulling that tired old “not real communism” schtick, we all see through it. Another thing, if they weren’t communists, where is the incentive to keep up the charade with all the symbolism? Surely a rational non-communist polity would realize there is a lot to gain from dropping the whole red, socialist realism and adopt a more (post-)modern aesthetic.