Possibly, but the problem with dichotomies is that they're dichotomous.
To the extent that they have teeth, anti-china nationalism, jingoism & anti-authoritarianism are very hard to distinguish. It has to do with motivations, and motivations are opaque, even to the first person.
I do think that the current anti-authoritarianism/jingoism is, currently, a stabilizing factor for the CCP. Most moderately pro-democracy person will get a whiff of the jingoism embedded within the anti-authoritarian "movement," and determine that these people are not their friends. Better to stick with the CCP than a faction where anti-chinese jingoism is indistinguishable from anti-ccp democracy motives.
Even the United States isn't genuinely democratic as most representative hold stock in various companies.
The best way to influence congress in the United States is to lobby, not vote.
And even in the ways that democracy works in the United States, most issues are in a deadlock position.
How long has the United States argued over abortion? the past, what, half century?
And we still go back and forth.
The United States is crumbling right now due to this deadlock with each party looking to overturn the changes that the previous leadership has overturned and so on and so forth.
Democracy is dying.
My ignorance is not as valuable as your knowledge, but this is precisely what democracy implies.
This isn't to say I advocate for Authoritarian governments either, but they do get rid of the levels of bureaucracy and levels of administration to administer changes, whereas in an authoritarian government is way more efficient to deal with changes.
I'd advocate for a benevolent authoritarian, but it doesn't mean that the successor, or the next, won't be a complete asshole, which is why authoritarian is dangerous.
However, the form of government that I would truly advocate for is a meritocratic oligarchy where the few would have absolute rule, but deserve to have that absolute rule in the sense they are benevolent, just, but wise and efficient at the same time.
Democracy is dying. I have absolutely no hope for this deadlock and polarization between the the factions of the United States, especially when most representatives are sellouts to corporations.
What's obvious for us who have been oppressed by the empire, for those who live there it might be impossible to see. They're the ones under propaganda 24/7, after all. Occam's razor works really well for many users of this site, but as soon as the subject is a rival superpower, everything is thrown out the window and it's the usual McCarthyism.
1. Flat out false, they are actively engaging in border skirmishes with India, and they are actively antagonizing every single neighbouring country (with virtually all of whom they have border disputes), not to mention Taiwan.
2. Millions of what? And what’s the relevance of this?
> have you noticed which country is the source of this war against evil communist dictatorship?
IMO, you would be mistaken if you view the positions of American allies (Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, UK, etc.) here as client states simply falling in line with their master's opinion. Though the USA is certainly influential on them.
Whether justified or not, the recent hardening of anti-Chinese-government positions from these countries seem to be largely independent actions, based on their own evaluations of their geopolitical security situation, which come to similar conclusions as the USA. In the case of Australia and Japan and Korea in particular, the current hard line taken actually predates the mid-2010s shift in America.
netcan|4 years ago
To the extent that they have teeth, anti-china nationalism, jingoism & anti-authoritarianism are very hard to distinguish. It has to do with motivations, and motivations are opaque, even to the first person.
I do think that the current anti-authoritarianism/jingoism is, currently, a stabilizing factor for the CCP. Most moderately pro-democracy person will get a whiff of the jingoism embedded within the anti-authoritarian "movement," and determine that these people are not their friends. Better to stick with the CCP than a faction where anti-chinese jingoism is indistinguishable from anti-ccp democracy motives.
China was authoritarian previously.
fc373745|4 years ago
Even the United States isn't genuinely democratic as most representative hold stock in various companies.
The best way to influence congress in the United States is to lobby, not vote.
And even in the ways that democracy works in the United States, most issues are in a deadlock position.
How long has the United States argued over abortion? the past, what, half century?
And we still go back and forth.
The United States is crumbling right now due to this deadlock with each party looking to overturn the changes that the previous leadership has overturned and so on and so forth.
Democracy is dying.
My ignorance is not as valuable as your knowledge, but this is precisely what democracy implies.
This isn't to say I advocate for Authoritarian governments either, but they do get rid of the levels of bureaucracy and levels of administration to administer changes, whereas in an authoritarian government is way more efficient to deal with changes.
I'd advocate for a benevolent authoritarian, but it doesn't mean that the successor, or the next, won't be a complete asshole, which is why authoritarian is dangerous.
However, the form of government that I would truly advocate for is a meritocratic oligarchy where the few would have absolute rule, but deserve to have that absolute rule in the sense they are benevolent, just, but wise and efficient at the same time.
Democracy is dying. I have absolutely no hope for this deadlock and polarization between the the factions of the United States, especially when most representatives are sellouts to corporations.
beebeepka|4 years ago
Now, let's take a step back and consider some facts
1. China has not attacked any country in a long time.
2. The champions of free speech and democracy have destroyed millions just this last 20 years.
Seems to me the villains are the ones screaming the loudest against their economic rival.
You really think any of this has anything to do with human rights?
You only hear the arguments of one side. At least acknowledge this simple fact, then go from there
stelonix|4 years ago
sgjohnson|4 years ago
2. Millions of what? And what’s the relevance of this?
retrac|4 years ago
IMO, you would be mistaken if you view the positions of American allies (Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, UK, etc.) here as client states simply falling in line with their master's opinion. Though the USA is certainly influential on them.
Whether justified or not, the recent hardening of anti-Chinese-government positions from these countries seem to be largely independent actions, based on their own evaluations of their geopolitical security situation, which come to similar conclusions as the USA. In the case of Australia and Japan and Korea in particular, the current hard line taken actually predates the mid-2010s shift in America.
_-david-_|4 years ago
What is a long time to you? A month?
jdefr89|4 years ago
freeflight|4 years ago
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chunghuaming|4 years ago
There are more democracies being threatened by China than just US.