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Russia 'likely' to invade Ukraine without 'enormous sanctions'

17 points| m1 | 4 years ago |theguardian.com

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bell-cot|4 years ago

High-quality commercial satellite photos are a thing now. Is there decent evidence that Russia is building up the sort of supply & logistics tail needed to support a major invasion? Or just a bunch of shorter-range and token actions - which still would give Moscow "Regional 900 lbs. Gorilla" bragging rights, but at <5% of the cost.

Maybe western powers are talking big about sanctions & such to make it even cheaper for Moscow to feel big. (Vs. actual military action, which tends to kill a lot of people even when "nothing goes wrong".)

And maybe The Guardian does have a passably sophisticated understanding of the situation. But I don't see much evidence of that.

bigodbiel|4 years ago

Agreed. One thing is military presence, either hybrid or “protecting Russian nationals” in the disputed regions (self proclaimed peace-keepers). Another is going to Kiev. Going by Mr. Schiff’s quote “further invade” that seems like a reasonable assumption as to where the line is drawn.

Grakel|4 years ago

I don't know why any large country would invade instead of just slowly, secretly buying the smaller country and it's power over a decade or two. Take China and Taiwan, or this situation in Ukraine. Even a heavy handed economic hostile takeover would be ignored by the other world powers because no individual politician wants to be responsible for starting the fighting. Eventually you own everything, you've moved a ton of citizens in, you've bought all the politicians with puppet corporations. Then they vote to join your wonderful nation.

skinnymuch|4 years ago

Isn’t this going to cost a ton of money, too much, and you can only move in so many of your own citizens. Russia can’t move too many of their own since Ukraine doesn’t have a small population. Voters still vote. Not sure why even with puppets, a majority vote to join your country would happen.