But it’s even more complex than that. The stories are personal. They’re cultural. They’re often told from the perspective of women, immigrants and people of color who have created and invested in a platform to share their stories. The recipe aggregator sites, bloggers note, basically tell the creators that their stories have no value. It’s the same message America has told immigrants and women for centuries, now just in electronic form.
I think that may be taking it too far, particularly since Google effectively created this entire syndrome.
I’ve got to be honest: those stories hold no value to me. That’s the truth. I don’t know why the WaPo wants those us who are like me to pretend otherwise.
I don't think it is taking it too far honestly. Even if it can be a bit jarring to see it written out like that. Part of trying food from other cultures/countries/families is getting to see how their history is reflected in the food they prepare. I read cookbooks to get a feel for a place, even if I don't plan to cook everything in the book. Or more correctly couldn't.
The complexity is imagined. It's not complex at all. People using Google for a free recipe are looking for...the recipe. If they were looking for stories from immigrants, they would have googled that.
I mean, this is true. But it’s weird being in the center of that raging fire. We were worried about getting sued personally (there were lots of threats) and or having our family or work brought it into it. Lots of people tried to get me fired. In the moment, it just wasn’t a fight we wanted to fight.
Maybe keep ads so that the bloggers can keep their current revenue stream. As someone who loves this idea, all I care about is easy access to the recipe. Its ok with me to have not too intrusive ads.
The site is back up, although it now seems to contain exclusively "free" recipes (i.e. coming from CC sites and old books).
IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims.
1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing.
2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first few steps; expanding the extract sends you to the original site (ideally to the specific anchor of the procedure).
Hard_Space|4 years ago
But it’s even more complex than that. The stories are personal. They’re cultural. They’re often told from the perspective of women, immigrants and people of color who have created and invested in a platform to share their stories. The recipe aggregator sites, bloggers note, basically tell the creators that their stories have no value. It’s the same message America has told immigrants and women for centuries, now just in electronic form.
I think that may be taking it too far, particularly since Google effectively created this entire syndrome.
renewiltord|4 years ago
dendrite9|4 years ago
For example I enjoy pad Thai, but I didn't know it was created by the Thai government in the 1930s until I saw a small comment and did some reading. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/04/no...
Or the history of Lebanese immigration into Mexico that led to Al Pastor. https://theeyehuatulco.com/2020/07/29/al-pastor-and-the-leba...
fleddr|4 years ago
fknorangesite|4 years ago
> It’s the same message America has told immigrants and women for centuries
I certainly won't deny this point conceptually, but it assumes that the stories are even true in the first place.
artursapek|4 years ago
tomredman|4 years ago
gamerDude|4 years ago
gamerDude|4 years ago
toyg|4 years ago
IMHO there are ways to make recipe-scraping resistant to copyright claims.
1. hide all scraping actions behind a login page; that makes content private, hence uninfringing.
2. every time a user "publishes" or shares content, present only an extract of the recipe, like the ingredients and first few steps; expanding the extract sends you to the original site (ideally to the specific anchor of the procedure).
kixiQu|4 years ago
let me know how this goes for private torrent tracker sites
unknown|4 years ago
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metabagel|4 years ago
Edit: Oh, there is also a website.