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HMH | 4 years ago

I wish German media were as meticulous about reporting adverse side effects of the vaccines against COVID-19 as they are with reporting about the dangers of COVID-19 itself.

The above findings are currently prominently displayed on tagesschau.de [1], whereas you can't even find the current number of suspected deaths after vaccinations (currently 1919 deaths after vaccination in Germany [2]) using the search utility [3]. Please note that this number is indeed newsworthy as this is the first update in months regarding deaths after vaccinations.

[1]: https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/uke-studie-corona-101.html

[2]: https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers...

[3]: https://www.tagesschau.de/suche2.html?query=1919&sort_by=dat...

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piva00|4 years ago

> I wish German media were as meticulous about reporting adverse side effects of the vaccines against COVID-19 as they are with reporting about the dangers of COVID-19 itself.

Why?

tomrod|4 years ago

In my experience, this is typically a "dog whistle" type statement that people who are anti-vaccination espouse. Conversation, when it does occur, will often lead to something like VAERS shows X,Y,Z (but without comparison of incidence to baseline population).

jacquesm|4 years ago

Post hoc ergo propter hoc... they are not suspected, they are possible.

HMH|4 years ago

Well, the security report itself talks about suspected cases (Verdachtsfallmeldungen in German), so I guess it's fair to call them that:

> In 1.919 Verdachtsfallmeldungen wurde über einen tödlichen Ausgang in unterschiedlichem zeitlichem Abstand zur Impfung (0 Tage bis 289 Tage) berichtet.

Also note that not every death after vaccination is reported, you need to fill a document with your symptoms [1]. So these are indeed very much suspected cases of adverse side effects / deaths.

[1]: https://nebenwirkungen.bund.de/nw/DE/home/home_node.html

DenisM|4 years ago

Covid deaths afaik are “death while having Covid”. Do you see a reason to apply a different standard to vaccines?