[mvindahl]

Asbestos solved an actual problem, as did freon. Both also created larger problems and were eventually banned. We could have given them some more time, I guess. Maybe, if given another fifty years, the freon industry might have (waves hands) fixed its issues with the ozone layer. Or maybe not. That wasn’t the trajectory, anyway.

Back in 2022, we’re now looking at a technology that has not, for all its promises of a glorious future, has not produced anything but centralized Ponzi-as-a-Service platforms, a way for organized crime to move money, and smokestacks. At least asbestos and freon had some utility.

[haswell]

> Asbestos solved an actual problem, as did freon. Both also created larger problems and were eventually banned.

I'd argue there's a bit of false equivalence in this paragraph, but for sake of argument:

Leaded gasoline also solved an actual problem, and the industry innovated/evolved beyond that.

Facebook solved an actual problem, and created many more. I still recognize its value even if I refuse to use it myself.

I'm sure there are edge cases, but history is not generally on the side of those who have pre-emptively banned things before they come to fruition.

The problem I see with this current line of discussion is that most proponents of banning throw the baby out with the bathwater, and pretend this is all a single product called "crypto".

Banning "crypto" would be like banning insulation because of the issues with Asbestos.

[mvindahl]

In all fairness, I don’t think “crypto” should be banned as such. Partly because it’s a loose and descriptive term, unlike asbestos, which is well defined and tangible. So a blanket ban wouldn’t work.

And also because it’s not necessary; existing regulation will get us most of the way:

- if you are, in effect, selling a security, let this be regulated this like any other security

- if you are, in effect, running a bank, etc.

- if your coin X acts like an intermediary for transferring money to hostile jurisdiction Y, then regulate transfers to X like transfers to Y. Forbid these if necessary.

- if your manufacturing process is needlessly wasteful then forbid this manufacturing process (globally) under threat of forbidding your product

Etc