[hfourm]

Good stuff. I have lived with ADHD as long as I remember. Going on and off prescriptions.

Adult ADHD has mostly revolved around depression/mood swing cycles of hyper focus and motivation (new interesting project/work, new job) and procrastination, lack of focus, and depression caused by that feeling of know I should be doing X but not being able to bring myself to.

I have some coping techniques and it isn't something I think about all the time. The worst thing about it is that while prescriptions are effective, they are not pleasant and the tolerance you build to them is even worse. I try to balance them (threshold dosages, only using when I really need it) with other techniques.

[cik2e]

There are supplements that eliminate almost all of the negative side-effects of stims.

- L-Tyrosine to keep your dopamine levels up.

- ALCAR + ALA to reduce neurotoxicity and tolerance formation

- Magnesium and Zinc for muscle tension, including jaw clenching if you're prone to that.

And for Aderall, you can take Vitamin C at any point to rapidly flush it out of your system.

These things are a game-changer for quality of life and sustainability of stimulant medication. For example, with the ALA+ALCAR stack, I don't get any withdrawals when I take breaks. No fatigue, malaise, nothing. I would have given up on adderall a long time ago without these things.

[omginternets]

> And for Aderall, you can take Vitamin C at any point to rapidly flush it out of your system.

Is this legit? If so, that’s incredibly useful information! What’s the mechanism?

Re neurotoxicity, I believe you are mistaken that amphetamine salts are toxic. I believe this is the case with meth, but not pharmaceutical stims.

[fire]

Do you have any recs for where to buy ALA and ALCAR from? Reddit seems to recommend nootropicsdepot which I've honestly never heard of before today.

[pbrb]

Exactly the same for me. I'm currently in the "I know I should be doing X but not being able to bring myself to" cycle on a piece of a major project. It's not hard work, I know how to do it, but I just cannot do it.

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, and have avoided the medication my whole life. Recently, I decided to try Adderall. It's like magic to be honest, and has helped tremendously in multiple ways. I can focus on a single task, less pain in getting started on tasks, can actually stay focused, can listen without the draining mental effort to force myself to, and am less forgetful.

But for some reason, this one project has put me right back in the same old 'cannot do this' state even with the Adderall.

[randallsquared]

> It's like magic to be honest

For nearly everyone, if I understand correctly, ADHD or no.