[aronpye]

< “It is just pinging around.”

Would you feel any differently if people were recording your activities by pointing a camera at your window from the street? Or even just pressing random doorbells to see if anyone lives there?

Personally I think there is little difference between virtual unwarranted data collection and physical intrusions, and just because there isn’t some kind of barrier doesn’t make it acceptable.

“Privacy is the ability of an individual or group to seclude themselves or information about themselves, and thereby express themselves selectively.”

I’d posit that recording the location of every IP address, which in many cases can be directly tied to an individual, violates a user’s right to privacy by publishing information about them without their consent.

[gruez]

>Would you feel any differently if people were recording your activities by pointing a camera at your window from the street?

that's what curtains are for. if you were caught doing a shameful activity because your windows were wide open and a onlooker saw, that's on you.

>Or even just pressing random doorbells to see if anyone lives there?

so... jehovah's witnesses?

>I’d posit that recording the location of every IP address, which in many cases can be directly tied to an individual, violates a user’s right to privacy by publishing information about them without their consent.

How is this any different than going around and recording the coordinates of every street address? You can also make the argument that a street address can be correlated to an individual, and by associating a coordinate with it, you are violating "user’s right to privacy by publishing information about them without their consent"

[starfleet_bop]

> that's what curtains are for. if you were caught doing a shameful activity because your windows were wide open and a onlooker saw, that's on you.

People have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their own home. In addition, the right to privacy is not limited by arbitrary definitions of shamefulness.

> so... jehovah's witnesses?

That’s a whataboutism logical fallacy. Just because some people do it and get away with it doesn’t make it acceptable.

> How is this any different than going around and recording the coordinates of every street address? You can also make the argument that a street address can be correlated to an individual, and by associating a coordinate with it, you are violating "user’s right to privacy by publishing information about them without their consent"

That’s kind of a straw man IMO. An IP address is public information and is transmitted by every IP packet. You can’t compare it to someone’s home address which is normally private by default. By associating a location with an IP address, you are effectively transmitting your location with every IP packet.