Ironically given the benefits that the cryptocurrency ecosystem supposedly brings to artists, this promotional material contains stolen IP from at least one independent artist [1]. Cryptoland's response was to block the victim [2].
After browsing OpenSea one may reasonably come to the conclusion that for every competent artist selling NFTs of their art, there are approximately 40,000 low-effort mspaint primates.
What this means is if you have an account anywhere on this network, say a Mastodon account, you can interact with the video directly. It's a system that works a lot like how email addresses work (that is, a federated social web).
last note: The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space. Pretty much because it is a system that works, and web3 is just a space for schmucks.
It would be a fun irony if web3 does succeed in pushing society beyond the centralization of web2, but only because it pushes people to use the federated systems we already have to overcome censorship when making fun of web3 stuff.
Youtube vs peertube vs odysee is a good comparison between web2, fediverse and web3. Youtube is popular and garbage, peertube unpopular and garbage and odysee unpopular and not garbage.
Here[1] is an article with more details. One worrying detail is that whoever runs the Cryptoland Twitter account "joking" about the age of consent being the age of "mental maturity". It is always interesting what laws these people prioritize changing.
You'd assume they'd be subject to the laws of whatever country that island is in. One thing you can be certain of is that no country is ceding any territory for them to form their own nation.
I'm struggling to find a way to constructively criticize. Project aside, the video is not at all professional to a western audience. (watch all of it, I dare you)
It's stylistically tone-deaf for their target market, grift notwithstanding. Who decided that real estate investors need a cartoon? At least Fyre's promo content felt "cool."
This is the best example of Poe's Law I've ever come across [1]. I honestly can't tell if this is brutal satire or someone's legit endgame. The more I watch the more inclined to think it's satire, but there's a lot of other things in this space I didn't think could be serious that are.
I'd love to think it's post-irony or meta-irony[1], but really I suspect it's legit and they are trying their best. Bless. Feels like an order of magnitude more risky as an investor than Fyre festival
> Mirror of the Cryptoland presentation that its creators seem to be trying to wipe from the Internet for some reason.
"for some reason" I wonder why! I'd love to see the comments they got on YouTube.
This seems such a ridiculously obvious "let's cash in on the gold rush" attempt, and Poe's law started hitting me hard when it came to the animated sections. But of course it's the crypto space, so of course it's a real thing!
Just to clarify -- it wasn't a smile at the end of their gross response, it was a winky face (only important because they're trying to deny they knew what "age of consent" meant now that they caught shit for it, but the little wink gives it away completely).
I’m guessing they are trying to appeal to speculators who are gambling that the value of the property will increase. The business model might resemble a pyramid shape.
I've not felt like this since 1999 when I did a party with co-workers at the T1 ISP I worked for at the time. The E-Trade monkey commercial came on and we laughed. We were already reviving large number of T1/T3/Sonet disconnect orders and it was obvious the end was coming soon.
I don't know when crypto will pop. I don't think we've hit max stupid yet.
The stock-market valuations of the late 1990s were excessive, but the objectives of the actual companies were fairly reasonable. Trading... over the internet. Order your pet food... over the internet. Eventually many of these things actually happened, they just weren't done by the "first movers" who were represented in the stock market bubble.
What's happening now, in the cryptocurrency milieu, is more deranged. It's to the point that it's making technology itself seem like a joke.
This is mainly based off of the 2 "founders" at the end talking about the project. When they go scout for locations and one of the founders starts caressing the top of a thatch hut and the immediate next shot is a piece of paper taped to a tree with the title "Mercle Tree", that's when it clicked that this was a parody.
I agree; I'll buy all 60 plots if it's real! I feel people are so overly keen on dunking on crypto at the moment, that they are blinded to agreeable satire. The proof that people claim makes it sincere isn't compelling.
That's because it basically is. I'm pretty involved in the cryptocurrency space and I haven't found a single person outside of the memecoin get rich types (see "Shiba Army") that thinks this is a good idea or seriously viable in any real way.
Honestly I can do nothing but hope that the craze around cryptocurrency dies down so that these types go back to other get rich quick schemes and leave the actual researchers, engineers, and developers to their work.
I'm pro-cryptocurrency generally, but I'm horrified by the crypto-as-salvation, utopianist narrative coming from some wealthy crypto proponents in denial of their own moral bankruptcy and the problem of human fallibility in general.
It feels like the same crowd who are buying up places in
cryostasis chambers and pinning their hopes on terraforming Mars.
So like, where does the water come from? Where does the food come from? Who does the cooking, cleaning, and essential maintenance of infrastructure? Where would these essential workers live? What would they get paid? How do you resolve disputes of who owns what hardware keys? Where do you treat sewage and waste water?
Like those are just my questions on first glance. Let's not even get into the fact that the video straight up says nothing has been bought or paid for yet. It's clearly a scam, they're gonna be laughing all the way to some country that has no extradition treaty with Spain.
The island (Nananu-i-Cake, pronounced roughly "nah-nah-nuh ee tha-keh") is less than 750 meters off the coast of Fiji's most populated island, Viti Levu, so piping in water, electricity etc and ferrying in workers is eminently achievable.
Of course, the fact that the video doesn't mention any of this, much less trivia like the location of the bloody island, is a strong clue about how seriously this project has been planned and how seriously we should be taking it.
Hi gang. There was an older version of this video that was released first. This newer version has a lot of changes that give a bit of an insight into how they want to present themselves.
Crypto has made it so a lot of young people have randomly gotten extremely rich. For some of these people, it is bound to go to their head and make them think that they are actually business geniuses. Sprinkle in a dash of bro culture and suddenly "buy an island and have a huge nonstop party" feels like an attractive idea.
I'm very confused. I was seeing the video and then the website as if it was a joke. But then it started to look like it wasn't very funny and that it wasn't a joke.
But... crypto, the crazy amounts of energy it uses, rising sea levels, and putting rich crypto people on an island.
[+] [-] pcwalton|4 years ago|reply
[1]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1478764832967086083
[2]: https://twitter.com/kamilabianchi/status/1479852849932734477
[+] [-] arcticbull|4 years ago|reply
[1] https://twitter.com/molly0xfff/status/1479974074986209286?s=...
[+] [-] katmannthree|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Hamuko|4 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] riffic|4 years ago|reply
PeerTube is a software application that implements the interoperable social networking standard, ActivityPub:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube
What this means is if you have an account anywhere on this network, say a Mastodon account, you can interact with the video directly. It's a system that works a lot like how email addresses work (that is, a federated social web).
last note: The Fediverse, as a whole, doesn't want to be associated with the web3 space. Pretty much because it is a system that works, and web3 is just a space for schmucks.
[+] [-] paulgb|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] rsynnott|4 years ago|reply
The funny thing is, ActivityPub is vaguely under the banner of the Semantic Web. Which, at one time, was sometimes called, semi-jokingly... Web 3.0.
[+] [-] nathias|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] mw888|4 years ago|reply
You’re correct, this is different from true web3, which would be fundamentally self sustaining.
[+] [-] slg|4 years ago|reply
[1] - https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n38x/cryptocurrency-invest...
[+] [-] Hamuko|4 years ago|reply
They've also sent a C&D to someone: https://twitter.com/cryptoland/status/1480236809531838464
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[+] [-] buildbuildbuild|4 years ago|reply
I'm struggling to find a way to constructively criticize. Project aside, the video is not at all professional to a western audience. (watch all of it, I dare you)
It's stylistically tone-deaf for their target market, grift notwithstanding. Who decided that real estate investors need a cartoon? At least Fyre's promo content felt "cool."
[+] [-] madrox|4 years ago|reply
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
[+] [-] Torn|4 years ago|reply
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsuSveDAlpI
[+] [-] sundarurfriend|4 years ago|reply
"for some reason" I wonder why! I'd love to see the comments they got on YouTube.
This seems such a ridiculously obvious "let's cash in on the gold rush" attempt, and Poe's law started hitting me hard when it came to the animated sections. But of course it's the crypto space, so of course it's a real thing!
[+] [-] amyjess|4 years ago|reply
Transcript:
> Q: what will the age of consent be in Cryptoland?
> A: Mental maturity should be more than enough! :)
Cryptoland is either tasteless performance art or a disaster waiting to happen.
[+] [-] mikeyouse|4 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] habeebtc|4 years ago|reply
It is rather less tropical but Put In Bay fits the bill much better.
[+] [-] rsynnott|4 years ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Minerva
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasteading
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voya...
It doesn't generally end well.
[+] [-] pavlov|4 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] TwoNineFive|4 years ago|reply
I've not felt like this since 1999 when I did a party with co-workers at the T1 ISP I worked for at the time. The E-Trade monkey commercial came on and we laughed. We were already reviving large number of T1/T3/Sonet disconnect orders and it was obvious the end was coming soon.
I don't know when crypto will pop. I don't think we've hit max stupid yet.
[+] [-] throwhauser|4 years ago|reply
What's happening now, in the cryptocurrency milieu, is more deranged. It's to the point that it's making technology itself seem like a joke.
[+] [-] andutu|4 years ago|reply
This is mainly based off of the 2 "founders" at the end talking about the project. When they go scout for locations and one of the founders starts caressing the top of a thatch hut and the immediate next shot is a piece of paper taped to a tree with the title "Mercle Tree", that's when it clicked that this was a parody.
It's scary that it took me that long to realize.
[+] [-] mailbag|4 years ago|reply
Here is some of their previous work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBHQu4DoM
[+] [-] SlowAndCalm|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] eisa01|4 years ago|reply
https://www.ft.com/content/c79ea41b-41c0-4900-90ee-6e6347449...
https://cryptoland.is/
[+] [-] jacoblambda|4 years ago|reply
Honestly I can do nothing but hope that the craze around cryptocurrency dies down so that these types go back to other get rich quick schemes and leave the actual researchers, engineers, and developers to their work.
[+] [-] cinntaile|4 years ago|reply
lol
Probably fake.
[+] [-] yawaworht1978|4 years ago|reply
https://blog.mollywhite.net/cryptoland-thread/
The level of incompetency and ironical jokes is overwhelming.
[+] [-] just-tom|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] sadness3|4 years ago|reply
It feels like the same crowd who are buying up places in cryostasis chambers and pinning their hopes on terraforming Mars.
[+] [-] Werewolf255|4 years ago|reply
Like those are just my questions on first glance. Let's not even get into the fact that the video straight up says nothing has been bought or paid for yet. It's clearly a scam, they're gonna be laughing all the way to some country that has no extradition treaty with Spain.
[+] [-] dustintrex|4 years ago|reply
Of course, the fact that the video doesn't mention any of this, much less trivia like the location of the bloody island, is a strong clue about how seriously this project has been planned and how seriously we should be taking it.
[+] [-] Eighth|4 years ago|reply
Here's a twitter thread detailing the changes: https://twitter.com/jpainio/status/1479863994387161093
The raw side-by-side video is here: https://peertube.social/w/wpDMyuGRYu9ax6Xz3q9Hdi
[+] [-] bawolff|4 years ago|reply
This has got to be someone trolling, right?
If you didn't watch the whole thing, make sure to at least watch the animated section.
[+] [-] UncleMeat|4 years ago|reply
Crypto has made it so a lot of young people have randomly gotten extremely rich. For some of these people, it is bound to go to their head and make them think that they are actually business geniuses. Sprinkle in a dash of bro culture and suddenly "buy an island and have a huge nonstop party" feels like an attractive idea.
[+] [-] mirekrusin|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] walrus01|4 years ago|reply
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/07/disastrous-voya...
https://futurism.com/the-byte/bitcoin-cruise-ship
cryptoland, more like grift-o-land
[+] [-] oleg_antonyan|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] fimdomeio|4 years ago|reply
But... crypto, the crazy amounts of energy it uses, rising sea levels, and putting rich crypto people on an island.
[+] [-] woodruffw|4 years ago|reply
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