It seems that some people are misunderstanding the value in these questions and the insight they lend.
It seems potentially very useful for those with various types of executive dysfunction or mental illnesses that prevent them from either bodily or environmental introspection. If you have experienced these levels of dysfunctions or panics then you'll hopefully understand how a mindful and procedural reflection on your current state and surroundings can be very useful, and can let you escape from attacks, flare-ups or endless cognitive loops. Being prompted by such questions helps. For me, after a brain injury, I found it very useful, when in a panic attack, to step through possible issues and try to alleviate them one by one. Any marginal improvement is worth it if it helps you escape distress.
Also, some people have problems finding internal ways to articulate feelings. Emotional wheels (google it!) are very useful in those who are perhaps neuro-divergent and less able to differentiate internal states without prompts.
Of course a website like this is not exhaustive or entirely encompassing all experiences. But that doesn't necessarily reduce its utility.
I envy those somewhat insensible people in this thread, because it shows they probably never felt something close to this. It's not something I would wish upon anyone, that's for sure. The questionable diet advice is likely the only thing they can sympathize (or "antipathize"?) and pick up upon Hacker-news style.
Apart from the dieting advice, for me the flowchart was actually pretty useful, specially for someone that ends up paralized when you have too many small chores to do. Then you go through the day smelling like shit, with the house looking like crap and every hour you just feel worse for not having done that yet.
I'm thinking of printing a flowchart in the style of these questions to help me through the mornings. And thanks for the "emotional wheels" tip, it does seem like something that would help me
I've never seen anything like this before...but it's good to have a 'checklist' -- for something to make you feel better.
It covers a lot of bases, and has useful strategies.
When you're feeling overwhelmed or worked up, sometimes it's not easy to remember what works for you.
This thing helps.
If you're arrogant or dismissive about it...that's OK. Just notice that's a reaction and know not everyone shares it. The wisdom in these suggestions is belied by their simplicity and apparent obviousness I think. I think easily there could be many people who exist in a stressed and worked up state, and incorrectly try to take that out on others, but don't even realize that they could feel differently, nor notice they're not in a 'normal' state. I think it would be very easy for someone in that situation to dismiss this checklist or not see the value of it...but I also think, it could really have profound effects on their well-being, and those around them...if they gave it a try.
If you think this stuff is all obvious: you might be really good at managing yourself. In which case, that's great. But you also might be forgetting that recognition, not recall, is the easier task--as in you may find it hard to recall things like this when you really may need them.
It looks like it would help a lot of people...I hope you enjoy it.
So much negativity here… I once „felt like shit“ and found this on Google, and it helped me.
It’s just a little tool to suggest small (short term) things to break out of your rut, not a life philosophy. If you don’t want to eat because you ate 4h, just don‘t, and move to the next question. But maybe you were immersed in coding and forgot food.
I had the same exact idea (barring shit emojis). I'm so happy someone implemented this!
Some people with mild depressive episodes don't realize they have the power to break free and make themselves feel better by simply taking action. I imagine this kind of app might just be the thing to get them started in the right direction.
But it goes without saying: if you have any persistent issues, contact a health care professional.
I'm surprised at the negativity people have towards it. I wonder what they'll have to say when those points of critique are fixed, like the fasting crowd's issue with 4 hours span.
I find the website fairly useful. When I'm feeling like that it's hard to take care of things like window being closed and me not getting enough oxygen. Forgetting to eat is a thing too. Reminding is nice.
I find when I have a strong negative or positive reaction and subsequent outburst, that I have some form of conditioned behaviour. This is usually a sign that I should try and catch that reaction, find the cause, and try to analyze link.
At least this is how I view it--the keys are: 1) strong reaction, 2) try to find out why I have a strong reaction.
My main reaction to this was that for it to be really useful it can’t be a generic website.
For instance if you’d sit for 15 min and think about times you needed to check your situation, you’d come up with a checklist of 5 to 10 items, and could pin it in your note taking or document management app of choice.
It would fill the same niche as this site, except it’s completely tailored to your life, your needs, with the proper actions related to each items.
Maybe it's because it feels kinda entitled to think that depressed people have problems at this level. It's like a children's book. OTOH a generic 5min guide like that can't really help in non-trivial cases.
Eh, people with all sorts of backgrounds can have a lot of knowledge about other fields. What you did at university shouldn't restrict your entire knowledge domain.
For those of you who think that fasting or low blood sugar does not affect your personality, you probably have a number of other social-interaction issues you need to be working on.
Sure, a good diet should make a meal last 6 hours. You should adopt good habits. But if you're acting like a smug jerk right now because you're blood sugar is low, eat something. I see a lot of commenters here who need to have a quick snack and reevaluate their dietary habits.
Really cool idea. Saved it to my home screen. Only thing is that is that the questions feel like roadblocks. For instance, last night I got 6 hours of sleep and it says I should come back after I nap. But I can't nap right now.
I guess I could just say I did and see what the other questions have to offer. I wonder what another decision path would look like where you can select "I need this but can't do it right now".
AFAIK, in the USA this seems to be common practice but in Germany people are more reluctant to take painkillers, for good reasons: You will be more careful when using the respective body part.
As an American, I'm frequently told by people around me to take painkillers or other medicines if I even mention that I have something wrong with me, no matter how little.
When I object and refuse, they attempt to pressure me into it.
I wish I could teach them that not everything needs to be medicated, and letting your body do its job, even if there's some discomfort or pain involved, is fine.
I prefer not to mess with my body chemistry unless it's a serious situation.
In the long term, exercise (including very light things like stretching, easy yoga, etc.) is probably the more robust solution to aches and pains (excluding severe or chronic things that you would go to a doctor for). Plus, good for depression which obviously is a big reason to feel like shit.
Yeah, I stopped right there. If we are going down that road, might as well take something stronger and get your brain foggy enough to be not in pain any more. Sure it works, just see the homeless people.
FWIW, Dr Karl, the Australian medical doctor / science communicator, often advocates early use of painkillers to avoid neural plasticity problems that lead to more pain as the pain related neural pathways are reinforced.
A word to the owner: eating every four hours is probably a reason you feel like shit. Fasting is not a bad thing. I stopped eating breakfast over a decade ago, it actually made me feel better in the mornings.
Everyone's different. I can skip lunch occasionally, but never breakfast. Also, nowhere does it say that the reader needs to stuff themselves till they're uncomfortably full every four hours!
I think a far better question is "have you drunk any water in the last 2 hours"
Most of the time I think I'm hungry, I'm actually thirsty. Take now for example, I've just eaten lunch and a coffee, but I'm feeling like I could really do with an apple (I had one for breakfast). I suspect that's because I'm dehydrated rather than hungry.
Instead it's the other way round (have you eaten? If yes, drink water)
Does anyone really think that this is going to tip any scales in terms of knowledge about you?
We got a new dog a few days ago. I immediately -- almost instantly -- noticed that tiktok started showing me new-dog videos. Things like "How to kennel train your dog" and so on.
I was very confused, and reasoned that the most likely explanation was that I had subconsciously been liking dog videos in our run-up to getting a puppy. But then it occurred to me that it's quite realistic to think an ML model got me: I'm logged into tiktok via Google as myself; there's certainly data sharing agreements in place; my purchasing habits are no doubt tracked by multiple vectors; and I know from experience that ML can infer some surprising things from sparse data.
My point is, in an era when algorithms know the instant you get a new puppy, or the month you get pregnant, or the week you get fired, or have an extremely accurate picture of just how much disposable income you have...
... are you really going to care about sharing whether you feel like shit? That's the hill we pick? :)
If you are concerned by that, you can mirror it (wget -m) and run it locally.
Out of the box, it will yell at you and styling will be broken, but it will be functional. The entire mirror is also smaller than most web pages nowadays: 500k and 100 files total.
Site feels heartwarming, but why do people think it’s a good idea to throw random life advices at strangers that might be on the other side of the earth and live a life they can’t even imagine ?
Horoscopes and fortune cookies usually make a outsized effort to come with as bland advice as possible. I’d imagine the owner of the site getting buckets of death threat level of feedback if this gets any traction.
Death threats? Why so extreme? Or why even take the whole thing so seriously?
I didn't think all the questions (or the options to choose from) were great but the general idea of checking whether you're okay physically, and then checking whether you're okay mentally, is very valid.
> why do people think it’s a good idea to throw random life advices at strangers that might be on the other side of the earth and live a life they can’t even imagine ?
People are sharing what they've learned. Advice doesn't need to work for everyone to be good advice. And it doesn't need to be perfect advice to teach you something useful.
The only feedback I have is that, if I was feeling like shit or in a depressed mood then having to click through all those prompts would probably p*ss me off even more.
Perhaps there's another way of presenting the content, without (again, my view) patronising a potentially depressed person.
True... but that might be hard to make suggestions.
> Yes, I took a shit in the last 24 hours -> Continue to next question
> No I didn't take a shit -> Go take some laxatives, smoke a cigarette, or go sit on the toilet and push one out (don't give yourself a Hernia though!)
> Yes but I have diarrhea -> Continue to next question
The content is adapted from the incredibly helpful and popular twine You feel like shit: an Interactive Self Care Guide developed by Jace Harr, with permission.
This site reminds me of every person I knew that never got better. Self-care is about long term health promotion. Not short term comfort maximization and pain avoidance. The first question alone tells me that an obese person wrote this.
Not necessarily. An obese person would know that feeling well without eating constantly throughout the day is not only possible but necessary. It is depressing to think otherwise...
There are plenty of sugar-addicted lean people who can't bear the thought of four hours without food.
Questions like "Are you feeling anxious/depressed/depersonalized" would be better if accompanied by a list of symptoms for these states. For example, when someone feels depressed, they don't always feel sad, which is what most people associate with depression. They may feel anhedonia, a reduced interest in activities they used to enjoy, or a decreased ability to feel pleasure.
[+] [-] padolsey|4 years ago|reply
It seems potentially very useful for those with various types of executive dysfunction or mental illnesses that prevent them from either bodily or environmental introspection. If you have experienced these levels of dysfunctions or panics then you'll hopefully understand how a mindful and procedural reflection on your current state and surroundings can be very useful, and can let you escape from attacks, flare-ups or endless cognitive loops. Being prompted by such questions helps. For me, after a brain injury, I found it very useful, when in a panic attack, to step through possible issues and try to alleviate them one by one. Any marginal improvement is worth it if it helps you escape distress.
Also, some people have problems finding internal ways to articulate feelings. Emotional wheels (google it!) are very useful in those who are perhaps neuro-divergent and less able to differentiate internal states without prompts.
Of course a website like this is not exhaustive or entirely encompassing all experiences. But that doesn't necessarily reduce its utility.
[+] [-] algoafalar|4 years ago|reply
Apart from the dieting advice, for me the flowchart was actually pretty useful, specially for someone that ends up paralized when you have too many small chores to do. Then you go through the day smelling like shit, with the house looking like crap and every hour you just feel worse for not having done that yet.
I'm thinking of printing a flowchart in the style of these questions to help me through the mornings. And thanks for the "emotional wheels" tip, it does seem like something that would help me
[+] [-] graderjs|4 years ago|reply
I've never seen anything like this before...but it's good to have a 'checklist' -- for something to make you feel better.
It covers a lot of bases, and has useful strategies.
When you're feeling overwhelmed or worked up, sometimes it's not easy to remember what works for you.
This thing helps.
If you're arrogant or dismissive about it...that's OK. Just notice that's a reaction and know not everyone shares it. The wisdom in these suggestions is belied by their simplicity and apparent obviousness I think. I think easily there could be many people who exist in a stressed and worked up state, and incorrectly try to take that out on others, but don't even realize that they could feel differently, nor notice they're not in a 'normal' state. I think it would be very easy for someone in that situation to dismiss this checklist or not see the value of it...but I also think, it could really have profound effects on their well-being, and those around them...if they gave it a try.
If you think this stuff is all obvious: you might be really good at managing yourself. In which case, that's great. But you also might be forgetting that recognition, not recall, is the easier task--as in you may find it hard to recall things like this when you really may need them.
It looks like it would help a lot of people...I hope you enjoy it.
[+] [-] atorodius|4 years ago|reply
It’s just a little tool to suggest small (short term) things to break out of your rut, not a life philosophy. If you don’t want to eat because you ate 4h, just don‘t, and move to the next question. But maybe you were immersed in coding and forgot food.
[+] [-] JanLikar|4 years ago|reply
Some people with mild depressive episodes don't realize they have the power to break free and make themselves feel better by simply taking action. I imagine this kind of app might just be the thing to get them started in the right direction.
But it goes without saying: if you have any persistent issues, contact a health care professional.
[+] [-] guerrilla|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] Kelamir|4 years ago|reply
I find the website fairly useful. When I'm feeling like that it's hard to take care of things like window being closed and me not getting enough oxygen. Forgetting to eat is a thing too. Reminding is nice.
[+] [-] skylanh|4 years ago|reply
At least this is how I view it--the keys are: 1) strong reaction, 2) try to find out why I have a strong reaction.
[+] [-] makeitdouble|4 years ago|reply
For instance if you’d sit for 15 min and think about times you needed to check your situation, you’d come up with a checklist of 5 to 10 items, and could pin it in your note taking or document management app of choice.
It would fill the same niche as this site, except it’s completely tailored to your life, your needs, with the proper actions related to each items.
[+] [-] moffkalast|4 years ago|reply
If only there was a mechanism the body had to alert you of it, like some kind of feeling perhaps...
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[+] [-] bregma|4 years ago|reply
Sure, a good diet should make a meal last 6 hours. You should adopt good habits. But if you're acting like a smug jerk right now because you're blood sugar is low, eat something. I see a lot of commenters here who need to have a quick snack and reevaluate their dietary habits.
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[+] [-] episode0x01|4 years ago|reply
I guess I could just say I did and see what the other questions have to offer. I wonder what another decision path would look like where you can select "I need this but can't do it right now".
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[+] [-] davidkunz|4 years ago|reply
I'm not sure if that's a good advice.
AFAIK, in the USA this seems to be common practice but in Germany people are more reluctant to take painkillers, for good reasons: You will be more careful when using the respective body part.
[+] [-] wccrawford|4 years ago|reply
When I object and refuse, they attempt to pressure me into it.
I wish I could teach them that not everything needs to be medicated, and letting your body do its job, even if there's some discomfort or pain involved, is fine.
I prefer not to mess with my body chemistry unless it's a serious situation.
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Most of the time I think I'm hungry, I'm actually thirsty. Take now for example, I've just eaten lunch and a coffee, but I'm feeling like I could really do with an apple (I had one for breakfast). I suspect that's because I'm dehydrated rather than hungry.
Instead it's the other way round (have you eaten? If yes, drink water)
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We got a new dog a few days ago. I immediately -- almost instantly -- noticed that tiktok started showing me new-dog videos. Things like "How to kennel train your dog" and so on.
I was very confused, and reasoned that the most likely explanation was that I had subconsciously been liking dog videos in our run-up to getting a puppy. But then it occurred to me that it's quite realistic to think an ML model got me: I'm logged into tiktok via Google as myself; there's certainly data sharing agreements in place; my purchasing habits are no doubt tracked by multiple vectors; and I know from experience that ML can infer some surprising things from sparse data.
My point is, in an era when algorithms know the instant you get a new puppy, or the month you get pregnant, or the week you get fired, or have an extremely accurate picture of just how much disposable income you have...
... are you really going to care about sharing whether you feel like shit? That's the hill we pick? :)
[+] [-] GuB-42|4 years ago|reply
Out of the box, it will yell at you and styling will be broken, but it will be functional. The entire mirror is also smaller than most web pages nowadays: 500k and 100 files total.
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[+] [-] makeitdouble|4 years ago|reply
Horoscopes and fortune cookies usually make a outsized effort to come with as bland advice as possible. I’d imagine the owner of the site getting buckets of death threat level of feedback if this gets any traction.
[+] [-] jstx1|4 years ago|reply
I didn't think all the questions (or the options to choose from) were great but the general idea of checking whether you're okay physically, and then checking whether you're okay mentally, is very valid.
> why do people think it’s a good idea to throw random life advices at strangers that might be on the other side of the earth and live a life they can’t even imagine ?
People are sharing what they've learned. Advice doesn't need to work for everyone to be good advice. And it doesn't need to be perfect advice to teach you something useful.
[+] [-] mouzogu|4 years ago|reply
Perhaps there's another way of presenting the content, without (again, my view) patronising a potentially depressed person.
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[+] [-] glenneroo|4 years ago|reply
> Yes, I took a shit in the last 24 hours -> Continue to next question
> No I didn't take a shit -> Go take some laxatives, smoke a cigarette, or go sit on the toilet and push one out (don't give yourself a Hernia though!)
> Yes but I have diarrhea -> Continue to next question
[+] [-] diimdeep|4 years ago|reply
[1] https://philome.la/jace_harr/you-feel-like-shit-an-interacti...
[+] [-] shultays|4 years ago|reply
Has the same content as far as I can see. I wonder how that other author was OK with that
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[+] [-] bayesian_horse|4 years ago|reply
There are plenty of sugar-addicted lean people who can't bear the thought of four hours without food.
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