You would prefer a capped note if you think you'll raise at lower caps. If you think you'll raise at a $10m post-money cap then a SAFE with a $20m cap is better than an MFN SAFE
Can you explain how it could be a bad deal for some - I'm struggling to understand what at all could be negative - this feels like 100% upside for the founders.
It's a bad deal if you have other willing investors. Let's say you exit YC and have a helpful angel (or many) who want to invest. Without the YC note, you may choose to let them invest $20-50k checks at a good deal, say (just example numbers) $12-15M post, before you raise a proper seed at $20M+ post. In that scenario, the YC note converts with the helpful angels.
In another scenario, let's say you get a term sheet for your seed at demo day, $3M @ $20M post from a firm that wants 15%. Then you add in another $1M from angels (5%) and the mandatory $375k from YC (1.8%) and you're at 21.8% dilution. Or you take $375k less and cut out angels you wanted on the cap table.
gumby|4 years ago
Doing a deal with YC never excludes you from doing a separate deal with someone else as well.
tyre|4 years ago
ngoel36|4 years ago
mizzao|4 years ago
loceng|4 years ago
ghshephard|4 years ago
ngoel36|4 years ago
It's a bad deal if you have other willing investors. Let's say you exit YC and have a helpful angel (or many) who want to invest. Without the YC note, you may choose to let them invest $20-50k checks at a good deal, say (just example numbers) $12-15M post, before you raise a proper seed at $20M+ post. In that scenario, the YC note converts with the helpful angels.
In another scenario, let's say you get a term sheet for your seed at demo day, $3M @ $20M post from a firm that wants 15%. Then you add in another $1M from angels (5%) and the mandatory $375k from YC (1.8%) and you're at 21.8% dilution. Or you take $375k less and cut out angels you wanted on the cap table.