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cocoggu | 4 years ago

Then the title of the article is highly misleading. Using "Scientists" instead of "Some scientists" implies that the great majority of the scientists believed in this hypothesis, and there is no evidence for that.

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ratg13|4 years ago

If an article is headlined "Firefighters rescue cat from tree"

Is your assumption that all firefighters were involved in the rescue?

ErikVandeWater|4 years ago

Also, the scientists with the most power were the ones doing the misleading. For whatever reason, the power structure has been such that the scientists willing to mislead are elevated to positions where they are given the opportunity to mislead the most people, and not challenged by other scientists^1 like you would expect in a community dependent on debate to find the truth.

And it's not as if this is leading to a substantial change in the community. If we're being honest, scientists with positions of power are just as likely to mislead us in the future when they believe the truth might be harmful to their funding.

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RyEgswuCsn|4 years ago

It’s not reasonable to assume all firefighters were involved in a cat rescue.

But if one says “Firefighters think cats are cute”, it certainly appears that it implies most firefighters share this opinion.

raxxorrax|4 years ago

And you would make the same criticism against articles that denied it could have had a lab origin? At some point people don't believe you anymore.

cocoggu|4 years ago

I don't have a strong opinion about what happened, it may or may not be a lab leak. It's still ongoing and I feel it will be a very long and sterile debate with few scientific facts to prove anything.

Granted, if the title of the article was "Scientists believed that Covid had natural origins...", this article wouldn't attract my attention as much, because I already believe that to be the popular opinion. But if, in this hypothetical title, "Scientists" only represented a minority of scientists, it would still be a very misleading title.

interestica|4 years ago

That's one of the tough parts about headline interpretations because you're right. I think editors use it as a sort of con knowing it can leave them with a way out. Here's an NPR headline using the same term that could be seen as just as misleading:

"Scientists Debunk Lab Accident Theory Of Pandemic Emergence" April 22, 2020 4:08 PM ET https://www.npr.org/2020/04/22/841925672/scientists-debunk-l...

coupdejarnac|4 years ago

I think if you qualify every bit of a statement, it comes off as verbose, which mollifies the impact. If you have half a brain, you should know that it means "some scientists" not "all scientists". I suppose it's normal to read absolutes into things you know nothing about or are unwilling to invest thought into. Then the ambiguity leads to lots of pointless quibbles.

q1w2|4 years ago

Agreed - both should say "Some scientists".

tekknik|4 years ago

Just like when CNN, WaPo, etc post “The GOP…” or “Republicans…”