[hn8788]

At this point I think the cars are popular because it's considered a cool status symbol, not because it's any good. I've got a co-worker who bought a Tesla and kept having issues with it, but still bought a new Model S a couple of weeks ago. It's already having electrical issues and other false alarms popping up on the phone app. He still gushes about how Tesla's are great cars, and how Musk is a genious that is leading humanity into the future.

It honestly reminds me of when I was in Iraq in the early 2000s, and you'd see police chiefs and mayors with iphones. The phones didn't work on the cell network, but they were still highly sought after because it was an expensive piece of technology that almost nobody there could afford.

[tempestn]

The quality isn't good, but the performance and features of the car are. We just got a Model Y Long Range in September, and have found it fantastic as a family vehicle. Handles far better and has considerably more storage than any comparably sized vehicle. Great acceleration even in the long-range. I could go for more physical controls for things like hvac, but the UI is still better than most other vehicles I've owned. Aside from the quality control issues, the cars are legitimately great.

Regarding quality control, we had one interior trim piece that was installed with the wrong pegs and so kept falling out - fixed by a mobile tech. It also had a small ding in the front fender, which Tesla had us take it to a local PDR shop to repair. That got it to about 95% - the spot is still technically possible to find, but you need to know where it was and carefully inspect from close range. Slightly irksome, but definitely wasn't worth trying to get the whole fender replaced.

Edit: For what it's worth I also own a 997.1 911 Turbo and a Honda S2000, so I'm far from just a Tesla/electric fan. In fact I really didn't want to want a Tesla as I'm no fan at all of the company for reasons like the OP. Tested all the competitors. But they're just legitimately good cars.

[pbronez]

> In fact I really didn't want to want a Tesla as I'm no fan at all of the company for reasons like the OP. Tested all the competitors. But they're just legitimately good cars.

That's exactly where I am. I want to go electric. I didn't like Tesla/Musk for all the obvious reasons. I test drove every electric car I could get my hands on. I decided to test drive a Tesla just for completeness. They gave me a Model Y overnight. It was amazing. I ordered one. I hope it has all its parts. Seems like a coin flip. We'll see how I feel this time next year.

[sizzle]

How does the full torque electric acceleration compare to your Porsches? Really curious how an owner of both can describe the feeling.

[nexuist]

Actually, the comparison to early 2010s iPhones is quite apt...you have the staunch iPhone evangelist who pressures all their family and friends into getting one, the one who waits in the lines for product launches etc. And on the other end of the spectrum you have the Android or otherwise user who cannot possibly comprehend why a smartphone, especially one as [locked down / hard to repair / expensive / etc] would be a good purchase choice in anyone's eyes.

10 years later the iPhone is still around but its competitors have more or less died out or left the smartphone game. The only flagship Android manufacturers that compete at the same price points are Samsung and Google, and pretty much nobody else is making a smartphone that doesn't run Android.

[tessierashpool]

yo, no offense, but how is this comparison even relevant, let alone apt? it made sense in the parent comment, but the way you’ve extended it seems to imply BMW went out of business or something. where are you going with this?

also, again no offense, but do you mean “pretty much nobody else is making a smartphone that doesn’t run Android”? because you started by talking about iPhones.

the first paragraph made sense, maybe you just need to clarify.

[waffle_maniac]

What iPhone feature has been as delayed and as dangerous as FSD? Apple gets their shit right.

[aembleton]

The iPhone didn't come out until 2007; so were they iPods?