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$10K to whoever can show a Fortune 500 product is less reliable than Tesla's FSD

19 points| icapulet2 | 4 years ago |dawnproject.com

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maxharris|4 years ago

This is a stunt by Green Hills Software, a maker of embedded operating systems and programming tools. You might be interested to know that they initiated a public relations campaign decrying the use of Linux as insecure:

https://lwn.net/Articles/83242/

Here's an article by the very same Dan O’Dowd: "Linux: unfit for national security?" https://web.archive.org/web/20040912190752/http://www.ghs.co... https://web.archive.org/web/20040916074333/https://www.ghs.c...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Hills_Software

Ourgon|4 years ago

If I'm not mistaken the Green Hills "Integrity" OS is used in HP's iLO which has some [1] interesting [2] flaws [3]. Maybe these are all HP's fault, maybe they are partly due to the way "Integrity" works but it would be highly surprising if "Integrity" is indeed blameless.

So, "Integrity, unfit for national security" and "Integrity is insecure" are probably just as "true" as the statements made by the above gentleman.

[1] https://airbus-seclab.github.io/ilo/RECONBRX2018-Slides-Subv...

[2] https://vulmon.com/searchpage?q=ilo--

[3] https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10/p...

guardiangod|4 years ago

Dumb stunt-

has a critical safety malfunction on average every 8 minutes;

has been on the market for at least 6 months;

has never been recalled.

Have they tried Ford's self driving system on the Mach-E, and see how it auto-disengages when a highway curved more than what the system can handle? Would that count as a critical safety malfunction?

I'd never use FSD in its current state, but FSD had plenty of recalls by way of version rollbacks.

waffle_maniac|4 years ago

FSD needs a permanent recall. I don't consent to alpha software being used on roads.

natch|4 years ago

If this meets their condition of being from a Fortune 500 company (?) then their non-responding website is eligible to win. I wonder what OS they use to host it.

natch|4 years ago

These people's reading comprehension is atrocious.

Tesla's FSD does not exist yet. A beta product is not the same as a product. Yes one can pre-pay for the product and get some features now, but actual FSD is simply not here yet. By "actual FSD" I mean something that is non-beta and actually does full self driving, in case that needs to be spelled out. Boy.

TigeriusKirk|4 years ago

I agree with a lot of your points, but the source of the confusion is Tesla.

They can make things much more clear and take the marketing hit, but they choose not to do so.

adolph|4 years ago

Look at those "Additional Rules" including:

  * You may only use contest hashtags with Tweets relevant to the hashtag topic.

bushbaba|4 years ago

Simple McDonald’s froyo machines :D

riskneutral|4 years ago

I think someone owes you $10K.

osrec|4 years ago

I assume this is sarcasm?