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bmh100 | 4 years ago

A third way would be to use a neural network to analyze a message before encryption, or to duplicate the message for receipt by the service provider.

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nybble41|4 years ago

I specifically covered that. If anyone other than the original sender (one end of the communication channel) and the intended recipient(s) (the other end of the channel) is granted access to any information about the content of the messages (including not just the full plaintext but also e.g. a digest created by a neural network on behalf of the service provider) then the system does not have the characteristics of end-to-end encryption. You've only encrypted part of the communications channel.

In any case, advocating for mandatory digital spies on end-users' devices is arguably worse than attempting to undermine E2EE.

randomhodler84|4 years ago

Please don’t try to come up with solutions. At best they will be hopelessly naive or worst: dystopian nightmare worlds. Giving any credence to the idea that E2E w/ side channels is acceptable should be rejected strongly.

What you are proposing is a pluggable censorship module that can identify any forbidden speech and report back to the authorities. It will take less than 16 months for every regime to co-opt for their own aims. It will indirectly lead to the deaths of thousands of dissidents.

raxxorrax|4 years ago

No, that would be severe and encroaching mass surveillance that undermines trust and sense.